The truth and lies of Ukraine Politics and governments

anil, I already explained here about that. For Russia it's not a war as you understand. For Russia it's a military operation. Not much has changed in Russia since this operation began. More than that, Russian curency got stronger, the income for oil and gas is up, although, we sale less of it. Who did it all? You did it! Your stupid Europian governments did it. And they waiting for some miracle that the end is near! We have to be all together! But it's this gorvernment which brought Europe insisting on the new green policy! It's so stupid, so dumb. Putin said it in 2008 - what will you use for heating, wood? But they only laught! There was nor Zelensky! There was nor Ukraine at all! It's not about Ukraine. It's about stupidity!

anil, I already explained here about that. For Russia it's not a war as you understand. For Russia it's a military operation. Not much has changed in Russia since this operation began. More than that, Russian curency got stronger, the income for oil and gas is up, although, we sale less of it. Who did it all? You did it! Your stupid Europian governments did it. And they waiting for some miracle that the end is near! We have to be all together! But it's this gorvernment which brought Europe insisting on the new green policy! It's so stupid, so dumb. Putin said it in 2008 - what will you use for heating, wood? But they only laught! There was nor Zelensky! There was nor Ukraine at all! It's not about Ukraine. It's about stupidity!

Please. Your soldiers are leaving all weapon and vehicles behind, on the battlefield. It's not special operation, it's a war You are losing like a bigest dumb.

Special operations are not on such scale.

Stop lying.

Oxiu, it's the war in your head. And whatever your Europian government did, they just creating anothe block like it was in the days of USSR. Congratulations to you. German minister Ursula fon Derlein is talking nonsence - Russians are taking chips out of washing machings and putting them in rockets! Former ginecologist, what does she knows about micro chips? It's so funny!

anil, how you imagine Putin's trip to Donbass? He is not a general, he is not even military person. You have a strange understanding of what is going on in Ukraine. And do you know where Putin is now? Yes, he is meeting Chinese leader far away from Donbass.

Some people planned the new crown trick and provoked Russia through Ukraine since 2014. Russia just had to defend itself. The real invaders are not what we see

Completely agreed

anil, how you imagine Putin's trip to Donbass? He is not a general, he is not even military person. You have a strange understanding of what is going on in Ukraine. And do you know where Putin is now? Yes, he is meeting Chinese leader far away from Donbass.
Putin is not a military but as a chef who send thousands of young Russians to the death, He could have shown the soldiers that he supports them on behalf of the Russian people in a more direct way. Zelensky had the courage to go into contact with the combatants. Whether we like it or not, this denotes two very different attitudes in adversity.
Yes Putin is desperately looking for concrete support from China. So far he is only getting nice words from Xi Jing Ping but certainly no weapons or troops. There exists between these two autocrats only a facade friendship but certainly no sincerity. Putin leads Russia in a weak position in front of China.
Sadly I note that the more extremist Russians who control the media want harder war, they do not realize that they are leading their country into a tragic impasse.

China see to that there is no sense to send Russia weapons, since they are losing and their commanders are not competent to win this war.
I expect nice words from this meeting and nothing more. Altough it would be interesting, what Ukraine would get next from USA, if China would somehow decide to help Russia.

And like Anil said - it's only a facade. They both pretend. I was great idea: "Hey, we are to strongest countries after US. Let's cooperate and take the world together then!" But... Like war on Ukraine showed us: Russia is military nothing. Without nuclear weapon they would be in very unsecure place.

And China see that invading other countries isn't as easy, even if on the paper the army seems to be strong.

Still, some things don't make some sence. Why the US is trying to annoy Russia and China at the same time? It doesn't make any sence. The USA is saying that China and Taiwan is one state, and at the same time they are trying to deal with Taiwan separetely? What is that? China is becoming a first economic power. West is loosing positions and still wants to "fight" with a new world wich is appearing. Anybody think that India forgot the colonization? Anybody doubts that India is going to play in Western games? So, what is now West is creating, only problems. Asia today has the chance to compete with the West and that what they gonna do. It would be stupid not to use such a chance.

Still, some things don't make some sence. Why the US is trying to annoy Russia and China at the same time? It doesn't make any sence. The USA is saying that China and Taiwan is one state, and at the same time they are trying to deal with Taiwan separetely? What is that? China is becoming a first economic power. West is loosing positions and still wants to "fight" with a new world wich is appearing. Anybody think that India forgot the colonization? Anybody doubts that India is going to play in Western games? So, what is now West is creating, only problems. Asia today has the chance to compete with the West and that what they gonna do. It would be stupid not to use such a chance.
I agree with this

Thank you, Vedan-a_legend, but some people in the West think different. What have they have in their mind? What do they think? Russia is going surrender? Why? For what? Is the West kept some bonuses for Russia? Are they really think that they can seduce Russia?

Are the Western partners going to seduce China? For what? For the only reason to be close to the West? If China will not be allied to Russia than what? What kind of bonuses China will get? Just promises that the West is not going to destroy them instantly? Maybe some other day? Later, when China will not have anything to say?

It's terrible, really.

Yes it’s terrible SergeyMoro but what is more terrible is all these cadavers found in the mass graves after the stampede of the Russians soldiers, some victims showed signs of torture, others had their hands tied behind their backs. Sergey, you find abnormal that we help the Ukrainians to defend themselves, but the barbarism of the Russian troops seems normal to you. Actually Russian army and Wagner militia recruit criminals from prisons to replace killed soldiers. Even more atrocious exactions could happen from such persons but they will make even worse soldiers. As you defend human values, don't you condemn this?

Yes it’s terrible SergeyMoro but what is more terrible is all these cadavers found in the mass graves after the stampede of the Russians soldiers, some victims showed signs of torture, others had their hands tied behind their backs. Sergey, you find abnormal that we help the Ukrainians to defend themselves, but the barbarism of the Russian troops seems normal to you. Actually Russian army and Wagner militia recruit criminals from prisons to replace killed soldiers. Even more atrocious exactions could happen from such persons but they will make even worse soldiers. As you defend human values, don't you condemn this?

You say Russia committed war crimes, but Ukraine is not at all inocent, they were filmed greasing their bullets with pig fat for the Chechen soldiers, a violation in the Geneva convention for not following the religious sentiments of the opposite side.

Yes it’s terrible SergeyMoro but what is more terrible is all these cadavers found in the mass graves after the stampede of the Russians soldiers, some victims showed signs of torture, others had their hands tied behind their backs. Sergey, you find abnormal that we help the Ukrainians to defend themselves, but the barbarism of the Russian troops seems normal to you. Actually Russian army and Wagner militia recruit criminals from prisons to replace killed soldiers. Even more atrocious exactions could happen from such persons but they will make even worse soldiers. As you defend human values, don't you condemn this?

You say Russia committed war crimes, but Ukraine is not at all inocent, they were filmed greasing their bullets with pig fat for the Chechen soldiers, a violation in the Geneva convention for not following the religious sentiments of the opposite side.

Lol. These terrorists attacked them first, so It's not weird that Ukrainians wants to scare them off. If that is true. And more - Ukrainians are shooting at soldiers, not civilians.

Bandits are guilty of whatever happen to them. Go away then, if they don't want to get such consequences.

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Where did Igor go?!

Oxiu, don't see so much fake news. I don't wanna comment all these nonsense.

Oxiu, don't see so much fake news. I don't wanna comment all these nonsense.

We in the west have fake news. But You don't have in Russia, right? Your media are saying truth, and Putin is saying truth too, right?