Billa, I think the world lived too long in piece. People forgot what war means. People are bored and trying to play again nationalistic tricks. But I don't see why? In EU you created some kind of democracy, but you don't want to spread it to the East. If the West had the wish, problem with Ukraine could be solved very easily. If the West would realise that problem is nationalists, everything would become clear. But it's not in the interests of the West! That is the problem. Nobody wants to see the problem, it's so ugly and inconvinient.
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AttaFromChina, "How NATO crossed the lines? Where and how?" NATO crossed the lines in 1991. It was just the beginning. The USSR broke up and there were no threat to NATO countries. Somebody knows what was the reason of creation of NATO? Yes, it was as a defence project from communists and namely USSR. No other reasons. And NATO still insist that it's so untill now. But if we look on the map what we will see? Where was NATO borders in 1991 and where are these borders in 2022? Certainly NATO is still expanding in every direction. If anybody remembers at some point Russia was ready to be a part of NATO. What has been said to Russia then? Nothing! NATO was not ready to take Russia as a partner! Why? Probably nobody in NATO wanted it. More than that, they were scared to have such a member in NATO. As Europian Union doesn't know what to do with president Orban. If you don't have an enemy, some people don't know where to go. West needs an enemy. That's why they are creating problems with Taiwan, Ukraine and you name it. It's everywhere. People in NATO looking for some enemies and they find them.yes,NATO is a deformed product of the Western confrontation with the socialist camp during the Cold War. It should have been destroyed with the end of the Cold War. But it didn't. Today it creates disputes around the world and deceives its own people into serving itself. They create the Taiwan issue and the Ukraine problem simply because we are the only two countries in the world that can destroy them! What is the difference between them and the Nazis today?
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What a bullshit. It's like: You completely ignore FACTS, and keep saying that Nato is threat. Only propagandist, or someone without basic knowledge of geopolitics and countries relations and military conditions could say: "Nato is threat".
Or... It might be. But if it's threat, it's threat to the Russian imperialistic behaviour!
If someone can imagine Nato invading his country, then I recommend bucket of cold water or therapy. Or school.
You can't be barbarian, bandit, and expect that someone will just waiting with open arms xD
Sergey - we, Poland, don't want Russia invading us again and again, like always You do. Thats why we invest in army, thats why we joined NATO. And deal with it. You have nothing to say about it. If You would live normally, like civilized people, there wouldnt be any problem between us. But You love wild agression and barbarism. So f*ck off.
Oxiu, that is why NATO crazy, like you are. You want to fight? Why you are here? Why you are not in Ukraine like some of your fellow sitizens? You are crazy dogs, war mongers. You don't want to hear the reason.
AttaFromChina, you see, it's no use to talk to some people because they don't hear anything. They hear only themseves. And I don't know how to convince them to listen to the other side. It's a problem.
Sergey’ China is Russia's worst enemy. You are occupying the historical lands of China. do you think they forgot that?, so don't praise china too much
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Oxiu, that is why NATO crazy, like you are. You want to fight? Why you are here? Why you are not in Ukraine like some of your fellow sitizens? You are crazy dogs, war mongers. You don't want to hear the reason.
You attacked a country. NATO isn't even solidary as it should be.
So why You talk so bullshit.
Oxiu, don't you realise that our conversation with you going like that - It's Russia, Russia, Russia! Ukraine is victem, victem, victem! NATO is good, good, good! Russia is terrible, terrible, terrible! And black426 adding - watch for Chineese! They can deceive you! It's bla-bla-bla!
To understand the unprecedented Russian policy pivot and the choice for war, one has to understand, firstly, what happened to the breakaway entities post-cessation of active conflict; secondly, what happened to the dominant policy options for solving the conflict. Since the post Euromaidan term, The Ukrainian political elite became a hostage to its ultra nationalist elements that could not be reasoned with, but became veto players in peace negotiations. After the Orange Revolution, President Yushchenko and other Ukrainian leaders and intellectuals from western Ukraine advocated an ethnic, rather than civic, conception of the nation, emphasizing Ukrainian ethnicity and language. Also, during this period, some Ukrainian elites articulated an interpretation of Ukrainian history that, put in stark terms, viewed the past through Stalin’s crimes such as collectivization which produced the Great Famine of 1932 (the Holomodor). In this view, Ukraine is a victim of the imperialist Soviet Union which perpetrated genocide and destroyed Ukrainian language and culture. Their ideology fit in with a strand of ultranationalist discourse that, over the years, had scapegoated ethnic Russians for the country’s problems and identified them with the Soviet Union and Russia. After Maidan, Ukraine’s interim government did not criticize ultranationalist discourse, but instead appointed a former leader of a neo-fascist party, Andriy Parubiy, to the important post of head of Ukraine’s
National Security and Defense Council. More dangerously, as the violence heated up, Kiev allowed semi-private paramilitary groups—such as the far right, neo-Nazi Azov, Aidar Battalions—to fight in east Ukraine. These moves engendered fear among Russophones in the east that they would become targets and victims. The issues of conflict included language, identity and culture, fear of assimilation, threat posed by nationalist forces, future political evolution of the state, and the relations with Russia that many in Donbas wished to preserve. Goverment started to call them either seperatists or terrorists. In August 2021, Zelensky said in his televised address that those with a pro-Russia identity should leave for Russia because there would be ‘no happiness for these people here. Zelensky spoke in Russian to ensure that his message was heard. He was simply addressing his words to Russophones living in Donbas region. He had no other option since he was under the pressure of ultra nationalists. Zelensky resorted to draw support from nationalist forces, despite his different electoral promise. Thus they missed the chance to re-integrate Donetsk and Lugansk into "united Ukraine."
The main stumbling blocks in the Minsk Agreements were a constitutionally-guaranteed Special Status for Donbas and a return of control over the Russian – Ukrainian border to Kyiv. The other provisions included cessation of hostilities, exchange of all prisoners, a binding agreement on the distribution of powers between the centre and the ‘Special Status regions’ (NGCAs) with a permission for them to maintain their own police force in exchange for the centre’s prerogative to appoint judges and prosecutors. The other issue was organisation of a local election monitored by the OSCE and recognised by the international community, but the contention existed over which law should be used as the legal basis and the extent to which Ukrainian nationalists from outside the region would be able to disrupt the campaign, as the de facto authorities feared.
Special Status Law had weak advocates and strong opponents because it was to recognise Donbas as having more rights than others. Under the Special Status, the region’s legislatures could have more say in the adoption of new national laws if they affected their interests, such as on language and education. Moreover, the Special Status law would have had no legal force unless the Constitution was amended accordingly. However, the political class in Ukraine was not in the mood for decisive compromises, and the sense of national honour was so strong that it was blocking a substantive discussion on the Special Status bill under both Poroshenko and Zelensky’s presidencies.
Thus, non-implementation of the Minsk Agreements became one of the reasons for the decision for war. Certainly, the Donbas conflict was only one factor that led to it, but it was intimately connected to the Russia – West relations over European security and the perspective on Ukraine as a battleground in the West’s geopolitical competition with Russia.
The west is trying to defeat China, but this is not possible in any case without Russia and we all have to accept this fact.,
What is the difference between Putin and an elephant? Answer: The elephant has the longer trunk.
Yes, diogenes_cask, there are many problems in Ukraine. One of the reason it is nationalists, which gain more and more power. The other reason was that West was supporting them and even more. It was in plan of the West to create such situation. If we recollect what Putin said - the free economic aria from Lissabone untill Vladivostok, it becomes clear why the USA instigated all these events. It was not in the interests of the USA if there would be such a grait project. That's why the USA is trying to play against China too. It's in the interests of many countries but not the USA.
Never read such a shitty statement as from the Vedang-a-Legend of India. If you shit in a river and then go swimming in it, then you must be covered in shit!!!
Latest report from the worldwide secret services: RUSSIA IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY RUNNING OUT OF AMMUNITION AND ALSO THE SOLDIERS. Russia already has to beg for supplies of ammunition and rockets in North Korea, and because of a lack of personnel at the front, foreigners are already being recruited from Syria (new cannon fodder). And the Ukrainian army is gradually recapturing all areas of Russia - in the south and in the north. The downfall sends greetings. AVE CAESAR-MORITURI TE SALUTANT!!!
What is the difference between Putin and an elephant? Answer: The elephant has the longer trunk.Freddy_hh, we are talking on the language of the facts there, stupid jokes like this are not topic here.
Oxiu, don't you realise that our conversation with you going like that - It's Russia, Russia, Russia! Ukraine is victem, victem, victem! NATO is good, good, good! Russia is terrible, terrible, terrible! And black426 adding - watch for Chineese! They can deceive you! It's bla-bla-bla!
Well, because it's true. But while I can give arguments, You don't give any, You only say the same things that Putin is saying.
Oxiu, again, do you think it's a good argument - same things that Putin is saying? Does it make any sense? Same thing what is Biden, Scholz, me or you are saying? What shall I do? Change my mind? The question is - is it true or not? You are repeating the same things - it's propaganda! I don't want to hear it! Take him away! It's too terrible! Some people might change their mind but we can't afford it! Let's build another wall between East and West! You are really paranoiac.