The truth and lies of Ukraine Politics and governments

You know? I feel sorry for You. You are so weak. Soviets always were the bigest murderers. So look at the mirror, and look at the history before you will point at anyone. You were always specialists in killing the unarmed. Because you were never able to compete in honorable, fair fight.

And now, you are looking for revenge on people, that did nothing.

Don't talk about my relatives or grandparents.

You are really weak and pathetic. Even now, russian army can't have any victory, so they leave people buried in the ground, in mass "graves". Its your tradition after all.

Sad... I really feel sorry for you. I hope people like you will dissapear soon, or will change their hearts.

Oxiu, I feel sorry for you too. Really. Very soon you will see it. I don't care for you gratitude for relatives. They can be sorry for you too. But Ukraine will be NAZIfied sooner or later. And your relatives would be grateful for that.

No. Russian army is one big joke now. You are losing. Stop lying.

Go and get some knowledge and stop lying, terrible person.

You don't even have fundamental logic behind your trashtalk.

You must be propagandist. That is why you sound so stupid.

Oxiu, who you are? Some kind of bot? So rusophobic, so pathetic.

Im not rusophobic. I like russians generally. I just don't like evil people. And Russians like you, for example, are evil, and stupid. So i don't like you, you the person. Because you are saying that killing people is okay.

But go on. I want to extract that whole hate and evilness from you, so everyone can see it clearly.

Oxiu, so far I only see a hate from you! What can I say? Relax. If you don't have anything to say, just keep your moth shut. Otherwise you will look like stupid.

Lol. Okay.
We have you, who wants kill people.
We have me, who say it's wrong.

Who is full of hate?

Go on, say more please.

I will not shut my mouth, cause i will counter every bit of your lies.

Sergey Moro, we are for cowboys and not for Russians who murder civilians on purpose. Here's a song for all Ukrainian fighters with pride and greatest
physical effort to defend their homeland. WE BELIEVE IN YOU!!!

Cowboy song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5eDrfyRtVk The Cowboy-Song / For all brave Ukrainian-Soldiers

Aki2001, what we are talking about? Please, give me something to talk about!

SergeyMoro, you seem persuaded or you pretend that you are convinced that all what the western media says is a lie. You remind me of what happened during the Soviet era in Russia. When someone dared to denounce the crimes of this regime, he was immediately shouted down and called primary anti-communism because all the horrors he said were necessarily propaganda. It took the fall of the USSR to realize how criminal this system was. I think it’s the same process with Putin’s regime. All the accusations are denied even the more evident.
Sergey, when this dirty war will be finished and all the crimes of Putin showed to the entire world. Will you have the courage to come in this forum and admit you was wrong? With of course all your excuses if you are able to find a little compassion for all the Ukrainian or Russian victims?

Yes, anil, I do. What about you? Are you ready to do the same? Couple word about Ukranian question. Several months ago all the Western countries were putting pressure on Russia to let Ukranian grain out of the ports on Black Sea. Russia did it. And guess what? It was said that this grain was needed by poor African countries. But almost all of this grain was taken by Western countries. Isn't it a lie? Anybody thoght about Ukranians? No! Everybody is trying to have own interests. I can put here hundreds of such lies. I am not a new born baby which trusts every one.

How is going the "special operation"? Because it's the biggest lie. Russia is going to take 300k "soldiers" now. Why? Are they losing so much that they need totally green people without any experience and send them on the front?

Im curious what kind of explanation will you make up.

Of course I’m ready to do the same. If after the war the press shows that it was the Ukrainians who attacked Russia and committed atrocities against innocent people. Then I will be the first to condemn all these horrors. But I really doubt. We'll see if you're a man who keeps his promises. So far all the horrible news coming out of Ukraine is overlapping and confirming. I speak about summary executions, torture and even abductions of children.
It was the Russians who imposed the blockade of Ukrainian ports and not the other way around. So it’s first the Russians the first responsible. After that it’s possible that all the cereals don’t go to Africa and that some people make money from trading.
I sadly see that Putin chooses to escalate the conflict by mobilizing 300,000 reservists. These unfortunates will serve as cannon fodder. I saw on the news it is impossible to find a flight to escape from Russia and demonstrations are repressed in the big Russian cities. I hope some courageous persons will stop this mad dictator. Sergey don’t you see that the bigger liar is your own government? The number of Russian death in Ukraine is maybe ten times more than says Putin otherwise why would he need 300,000 more men for this special operation.
If you were a good Russian citizen you should shout against this dramatic scandal

anil, it's a little bit unfair deal. "If after the war the press shows that it was the Ukrainians who attacked Russia". It's not the question that we are discussing. First of all, to be formal, there were several incidents before this operation when Ukrainian forces came over the Russian territory. Will we consider it's an act of war? Another thing, nor matter what is Oxiu is saying, it is still a war operation not the war. It doesn't matter much, but we have to be precise. Otherwise it will be bla-bla-bla. Pure propaganda. You didn't realize that Ukrainian government was killing civilian people of Donbass for eight years. Was it OK with you? I guess it's a hypothetical question. After a certain period Russia has recognized these rebel territories is independent states. So, speaking in precise terms it became a mess. After that there were certain threats from the Ukrainian side against Russia. Zelensky said many times that his country is going to be a part of NATO, it will try to get nuclear bomb etc. Do we have to go even further back when after "revolution" in 2014 in Kiev the former government was dismissed? And if we start from there there is nor legitimate government in Ukraine. There is a very long history of this conflict. Can you fix in a minute Israel - Arab conflict? Can you tell who is there right and was right all the time? If you are not deaf you have to listen both sides. Otherwise our conversation doesn't make any sense. You are just trying to repeat whatever is on internet. Then we have to start another topic. Is there a freedom of speech in the West? Are you sure?

Mr Sharon of Israel is given a deal of peace from the Palestinians, this after much blood shed and attrition. For the Israelis, Mr Sharon has personally been present to each location after each bus bombing, He has the deep look of shell shock and death in his eyes of the foolish human urges he was guilty of himself, to retaliate against his Gazan brothers and each strick brings one back to him.

A deal built on mutual agreement not to make war, but to live with each other for today in a scarce peace of natural need because a great reconciliation is a hard concept to put together. Mr Sharon is wearily embraces this new peace agreement with the Gaza Strip, but is not blind.

300k of reserves, and Sergey talks about special operation xD Mercy...

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