What do you think about taiwan rn Politics and governments

In 1662, Koxinga, a loyalist of the Ming dynasty who had lost control of mainland China in 1644, defeated the Dutch and established a base of operations on the island. His descendants were defeated by the Qing dynasty in 1683 and their territory in Taiwan was annexed by the Qing dynasty. Over the two centuries of Qing rule, Taiwan's population increased by over two million and became majority Han Chinese due to illegal cross-strait migrations from mainland China despite official quarantine policies prohibiting entering Taiwan and encroachment on Taiwanese indigenous territory.

During The Three Kingdoms Period, the king of Wu sent a fleet to Taiwan. In the War of liberation, the remnants of the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, but Taiwan will always be part of the People's Republic of China.When any country establishes diplomatic relations with China, it has promised that Taiwan is part of China. If your government has admitted it, you have no right to fudge the truth.In addition, the "one country, two systems" policy clearly states that Taiwan will maintain the original Party, government and military system, and the mainland will not send troops to Taiwan.The estrangement between Taiwan and the mainland is due to the obstruction of the United States and other Western countries.


As when Hong Kong learned first-hand of the demise of the "One Country, Two System" Agreement.

Thanks to the Qing Dynasty, they must have had respect for the aboriginal tribes of Taiwan because they let them live in co-existence with the illegal migration from mainlanders who wanted to extend the boundaries of colonization.
I don't know why you are talking about illegal migration there. Taiwan hasn't seen migration in 2023 and if you want to apply this set of values to Taiwan, then better appying it to the US as well, or Sicily (which is kind of simillar to Taiwan in term of colonization in my opinion, but long before) and so many other regions.

Now, I think it's interesting to talk about Ming loyalists. Taiwan was barely of any interest for Chineses and the interraction/colonization wasn't that strong before the Ming dynasty being overthrown by the Qing... Saying that Taiwan is Chinese since the Three Kingdoms is a great exagerration from what I can see.

@DanielWeathers
The capitalist system is still practised in Hong Kong and has not changed because the motherland is a socialist country.Taiwan belongs to China, and the only legal power in China is the Central People's Government of the People's Republic of China, so Taiwan is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China. Since the Republic of China was removed from the United Nations in 1971, it means that the international community has recognized that the government of the Republic of China is no longer the legal government of China.

The question of Taiwan Province was originally an internal affair of our country, but with the intervention of other countries, it became stale. This is also thanks to some crazy woman. You can make suggestions, but we don't need what others call help.

Since the death of Mr. Roosevelt, you have become more and more ridiculous.
And don't criticize us with what you call that.

That seems to be a media offensive from these young Chinese so knowledgeable in history and international politics. I find useful to recall that Taiwan belongs first to those who live there. The democratic elections showed that Taiwanese doesn’t want to be submitted to a dictatorship. They saw what happened to Honk Hong. I don’t advise Xi Jingping to try to invade Taiwan, he could see the real motivation of Taiwanese citizen to be free.

Please don't use the word "invasion", you should say "liberation of Taiwan"

A liberation that makes you a slave is an invasion. You want to liberate Taiwan from freedom?

Taiwan Province will return sooner or later, it's only a matter of time, so 我没什么好跟你们较真的

The only reason why China wants Taiwan is the semiconductor industry, because this is one piece of the strategic puzzle to be a world leading country.
You have to know about the fact, that China is not able to produce semiconductor chips with lines below 20 nm. For the leading 8 nm lines in current possible semi conductors they need extremly good technology for lasers and lenses. And those exact lenses are only able to produce three manufactures in the world (the world leading manufacturer is Zeiss in Germany!), the other two manufactures are in US and Western Europe.
So if China gets Taiwan they can control the machines and the production of 80% of semiconductor chips in the world.

That is the reason why China is interested in this tiny island.

And by the way: Why is China so much interested to have a mountain state like Nepal under their control? Because they are able to control the melting water from the Himalaya which is needed by India and Bangladesch - a region with 1,5 billion people. So if they decide to act against China you can imagine what they will do.

Keep in mind: Xi Jinping can do an invest and offer material and food - but everything he does has a price...

And be sure China has already a plan how to prevent the Taiwan government from blowing up their industry in case of a chinese invasion.

Please don't use the word "invasion", you should say "liberation of Taiwan"

Because the great famous Chinese Firewall will indentify you and you get "visits" from independend police men?

The Qing dynasty was only interested in the land grab of Taiwan in the beginning because of their rivals who took refuge there, same as now.

Then the Qing knew not to disturb the villagers of Taiwan because in tradition the Mainland has always been of its own territory.

In international perspective, such an island as Taiwan had no real government to subjugate "uncivilized" people there, which meant no borders of China. The Dutch must have been the first foreigners to settle their colony there. Even Japan had more success with planting their flags among the villages.

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The only reason why China wants Taiwan is the semiconductor industry, because this is one piece of the strategic puzzle to be a world leading country.
You have to know about the fact, that China is not able to produce semiconductor chips with lines below 20 nm. For the leading 8 nm lines in current possible semi conductors they need extremly good technology for lasers and lenses. And those exact lenses are only able to produce three manufactures in the world (the world leading manufacturer is Zeiss in Germany!), the other two manufactures are in US and Western Europe.
So if China gets Taiwan they can control the machines and the production of 80% of semiconductor chips in the world.
That's an important point, but I'm pretty sure that Taiwan wasn't having a monopoly over semiconductors during the civil war and that mainland China already wanted reunification...
Futhermore, an invasion of Taiwan would simply force both the US and China to massively invest in semiconductors, morethan they already are doing now, so it would, in the end, benefit them at the expense of Europe.

As for water, that's an interesting point again, but I doubt that a country like China would care much about pressuring countries "if". Their management of the Mekong already is disturbing for Indochina, just like the management of Nile is source of high tensions in Africa. They already are quite oood with hydrodiplomacy.

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No one else has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of their own country

Ah interesting view. Like Russia said the Ukraine is an internal affair between Russia and Ukraine and foreign countries should do nothing and the Ukraine has to accept. So that its easier for Russia to attack?

Same about Taiwan, has to accept to bei attacked by China. And If they dont like they get what? Like Hongkong with the students?

Dont believe every bullsh... that your government tell you.

The chinese is gonna invade taowan and its scary
Taiwan has been part of China since ancient times.

According to ancient documents, the Chinese mainland military and civilian crossing east to Taiwan, reclaiming and operating the island of Taiwan, can be traced back to the Three Kingdoms era more than 1,700 years ago. In 230 AD, when Sun Quan, King of Wu of the Three Kingdoms, sent 10,000 officers and soldiers to "Yizhou" (Taiwan), Shen Ying's "Records of the Linhai Sea" left the world's earliest account of Taiwan.

The Sui Dynasty in the late 6th and early 7th centuries, the 600 years from the Tang Dynasty to the Song Dynasty, and the Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties all had legal dominance over Taiwan.

Japan's culture is cool, and China's culture is blah.

And for Liasheng: the Japanese women can be distinguished so well from Chinese women because the Japanese women place more value on fashion and a well-groomed appearance.


They used to be culturally the same people.

Do you know the real Chinese culture?
Would you rather believe a real Chinese or an overseas version of CCTV (https://global.cctv.com/) or believe the lies of the government on your mainstream platforms?

Most of the countries in East Asia are part of the Han cultural circle

"Sinosphere" refers to the vast area of existence and influence of Han culture, and is one of the four major cultural circles in the world on an equal footing with the Western-Christian cultural circle, Arab-Islamic cultural circle, and Indian-Brahmanical cultural circle. Han culture, also known as "Chinese culture", "Chinese culture" and "Chinese culture". After the formation of Han culture in China, it spread to other countries in East and Southeast Asia through various channels of exchange. Therefore, the East and Southeast Asian regions where Han culture exists and influences are collectively referred to as "Han cultural circles" or "Han cultural areas".

Almost all ancient buildings in Japan now have imitations of ancient Chinese architecture. Even culturally, kimono is so similar to Hanfu that sashimi first appeared in China.

Sashimi(生鱼片), also known as “鱼生”, is one of the oldest traditional foods in China. The earliest records date back to the Zhou Dynasty, and it is recorded that in the fifth year of King Xuan of Zhou, the Zhou master Yu Peng Ya attacked the lynx and returned in triumph. General Yin Jifu had a private banquet for Zhang Zhong and other friends, and the main course was roasted turtle with raw carp fillet. In the pre-Qin era, the ingredients were mostly cattle, sheep, fish, horses, etc., and after the Qin and Han dynasties, fish was more used, so there was a "鲙" that separately represented fish and flesh.