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Russia's war in Ukraine is now an illegal war according to the United Nations. I am watching Ukraine's treatment of cities and maybe someday everyone will be sure of the result weather people were massacred or not. Ukraine has grown a rugged stance toward their adversary Russia because of Putin's dogma and manipulation in their country with scaring away their economic opportunities for decades and affecting all citizens in it in order to weaken Ukraine's defences in the future, which ironically has turned on Russia instead. The world is not blind to propaganda and lies and can see why we need to sanction ties with countries who support the war in Ukraine. Russia knows well how to intimidate Ukraine but they strengthen them instead.

I am not for Nukes being used any longer because they are a harmful idea to keep hold of. Russia is a mad crazy country for using the Nuke card again in politics was they've been always known for. This will make Putin known in history in a bad light.

No war is legal. But isn't it humiliating for the United States to set up a biological laboratory on Ukrainian land and use Ukrainians to do human experiments? Should Russia begin to resist until the United States and NATO member States occupy Ukraine and continue to occupy Moscow? As far as I know, Putin was a pro american faction at the beginning. He even wanted Russia to join NATO! But after 20 years of American deception, he became what he is now! Didn't you force it? The Soviet Union and Ukraine have become what they are now under your deception. The Ukrainian people's life is very poor and there are prostitutes everywhere. Do you think everything NATO has done is right?

Russia's war in Ukraine is now an illegal war according to the United Nations. I am watching Ukraine's treatment of cities and maybe someday everyone will be sure of the result weather people were massacred or not. Ukraine has grown a rugged stance toward their adversary Russia because of Putin's dogma and manipulation in their country with scaring away their economic opportunities for decades and affecting all citizens in it in order to weaken Ukraine's defences in the future, which ironically has turned on Russia instead. The world is not blind to propaganda and lies and can see why we need to sanction ties with countries who support the war in Ukraine. Russia knows well how to intimidate Ukraine but they strengthen them instead.

I am not for Nukes being used any longer because they are a harmful idea to keep hold of. Russia is a mad crazy country for using the Nuke card again in politics was they've been always known for. This will make Putin known in history in a bad light.

RIA Novosti published this article: "What Russia should do with Ukraine"
(https://web.archive.org/web/20220403060102/https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html)

- The special operation has shown that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who took up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people."

- Ukrainians disguise their National Socialism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine has no Nazi party, no leader and no racial laws, but because of its flexibility Ukrainian National Socialism is much more dangerous for the world than Hitler's National Socialism"

- Denazification means de-Ukrainization. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanization"

- The political elite of Ukraine must be eliminated, as they cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and internalize this experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt."

- The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation

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This is what Russia understands by denazification of Ukraine.
"more dangerous than Hitler's national socialism"...
Sergeyev desperately needs a history lesson.

satellite images of bodies are added verification to the reports of civilian bodies being found killed intentionally.

Edited by DanielWeathers .
RIA Novosti published this article: "What Russia should do with Ukraine"
(https://web.archive.org/web/20220403060102/https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html)

- The special operation has shown that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who took up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people."

- Ukrainians disguise their National Socialism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine has no Nazi party, no leader and no racial laws, but because of its flexibility Ukrainian National Socialism is much more dangerous for the world than Hitler's National Socialism"

- Denazification means de-Ukrainization. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanization"

- The political elite of Ukraine must be eliminated, as they cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and internalize this experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt."

- The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This is what Russia understands by denazification of Ukraine.
"more dangerous than Hitler's national socialism"...
Sergeyev desperately needs a history lesson.


Having to see the Russian and allies work so hard against the West with jealousy and fake takes on the truth here makes my heart so sad.


"No war is legal. But isn't it humiliating for the United States to set up a biological laboratory on Ukrainian land and use Ukrainians to do human experiments? Should Russia begin to resist until the United States and NATO member States occupy Ukraine and continue to occupy Moscow? As far as I know, Putin was a pro american faction at the beginning. He even wanted Russia to join NATO! But after 20 years of American deception, he became what he is now! Didn't you force it? The Soviet Union and Ukraine have become what they are now under your deception. The Ukrainian people's life is very poor and there are prostitutes everywhere. Do you think everything NATO has done is right?"

Ukraine is made poor by Russia's Economic Oppression if it was their way of declaring War years ago, that was the goal they wanted. All citizens were affected by the internal sabotage slowly played by Putin. Putin wanted Russia to be a great power again, not to be part of the Western alliances.

You want Russia and China to become servants of the United States, right? Become the running dog of the United States like Japan and South Korea? Sorry, we don't want to. There is an old Chinese saying: "do not do to others what you do not want." Who keeps imposing economic sanctions on China? Who is destroying China's one belt, one road? Who is constantly sanctioning Cuba and North Korea because they are socialist countries. The United States was originally a colony, and you aborigines succumbed to the evil European colonists. But we don't want to.

RIA Novosti published this article: "What Russia should do with Ukraine"
(https://web.archive.org/web/20220403060102/https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html)

- The special operation has shown that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who took up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people."

- Ukrainians disguise their National Socialism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine has no Nazi party, no leader and no racial laws, but because of its flexibility Ukrainian National Socialism is much more dangerous for the world than Hitler's National Socialism"

- Denazification means de-Ukrainization. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanization"

- The political elite of Ukraine must be eliminated, as they cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and internalize this experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt."

- The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This is what Russia understands by denazification of Ukraine.
"more dangerous than Hitler's national socialism"...
Sergeyev desperately needs a history lesson.


Having to see the Russian and allies work so hard against the West with jealousy and fake takes on the truth here makes my heart so sad.


"No war is legal. But isn't it humiliating for the United States to set up a biological laboratory on Ukrainian land and use Ukrainians to do human experiments? Should Russia begin to resist until the United States and NATO member States occupy Ukraine and continue to occupy Moscow? As far as I know, Putin was a pro american faction at the beginning. He even wanted Russia to join NATO! But after 20 years of American deception, he became what he is now! Didn't you force it? The Soviet Union and Ukraine have become what they are now under your deception. The Ukrainian people's life is very poor and there are prostitutes everywhere. Do you think everything NATO has done is right?"

Ukraine is made poor by Russia's Economic Oppression if it was their way of declaring War years ago, that was the goal they wanted. All citizens were affected by the internal sabotage slowly played by Putin. Putin wanted Russia to be a great power again, not to be part of the Western alliances.

As my teacher once said: "The guilty dog always barks the loudest." And the world does not want to follow the Draconian Rules for the pandemic and starve in our own homes.

Are you talking about the guilty dog in the United States? We have to ask the United Nations to give you a medal because of your honesty 😂

As my teacher once said: "The guilty dog always barks the loudest." And the world does not want to follow the Draconian Rules for the pandemic and starve in our own homes.

This completely ignores the view from Ukrainians who want to keep their freedoms and homes but petty made-up stories about a "Russiaphobia" takes center-stage I guess to others who make things political out of war like Putin has.
So if Ukrainians want to keep their freedom and homes, it is a justification to sanction and to take off the freedom from the citizens of a country labeled as evil? Even if they also sanction people from your own country and its supposed "allies"? Come on, what seems petty to me is to punish innocents while having a very black a white vision.
Talking about ignoring the view from others, aren't you ignoring the 8 years of civil war, hence the view of separatists? Aren't you as well ignoring the view of people not having the same opinion as you by lstating that they are "petty made up stories"?

After all, aren't some people attacking restaurants owned or supposed owned by Russians? Aren't some people forced to say that "Poutine" has nothing to do with Putin? Aren't some school in France trying to rename? Isn't Facebook allowing hate speech toward Russia and Russians "as long as it's related to the war"? Nah, probably people in the side of the good are all nice, angelic I'd say and innocent as a lamb, aren't they?

https://www.e-ir.info/2020/11/27/russian-military-aggression-or-civil-war-in-ukraine/

I think the so-called Civil War is falsified by pro-Russian supporters who want to justify a war in Ukraine's sovereign land to make a Red-Flag situation glorifying Russia's so-called intervention to protect Russian speakers as a different people among the Ukrainians.

Falsified war? So like Ukrainians in the article you link here, it is not a war? Sounds much like the "intervention" from Russia, ironically... As for russian speakers,a ren't they seen as different when the government want to force them to abandon Russian? We've lived this in France with regional languages (breton, a celtic language got forbidden in the past and is endangered nowadays for instance, other disappeared), and so did you more or less in the US were French is abandonned, and it's like attempting an ethnocid in my view.

Good night everyone here ! Personnally , I just feel real sadness when I m watching from my confortable french tv set and handy the atrocities which are committed in Ukraina because it remembers me another one that my father used to tell me about before and which already occurred a long time ago . I really wish for Russia never have to face again with a real nazi threat specially if it should have nukes on its disposal and unfortunately with their agressive behaviour against their neighbors and their violent actions against them, they are creating nazis and they do not realize that in fact they are themselves become the losers of those that their grandparents used to fight for their own
survival . Have a good night ! Yours François

Sir, we are pleased that you are very kind. But that news is false! If you look closely at the pictures of the Bucha incident, you will find that these bodies will move! 😂 Russian troops withdrew from Bucha on March 31, but why did these pictures appear a few days later? Don't you think there's a problem? China, like other countries, opposes that terrible massacre, if it is true. Our UN representatives strongly called for a thorough investigation of the Bucha incident, but your ally, the current rotating presidency of the United Nations, Britain, rejected their request. Isn't that weird? Don't forget that the president of Ukraine was once a comedian, and with the help of NATO - he evolved into a director. It's just a tragic film, but he still plays a comedy color. 😂 The Russian army will not massacre civilians. Even during the period of opposing Nazism, if Soviet soldiers massacred German civilians, they will be shot! Don't forget that the bag of washing powder in Iraq was slandered by you as biological and chemical weapons, and then you have an excuse to invade Iraq and overthrow their government. It's understandable. After all, Cannes Film Festival is famous all over the world. You need some new materials.

Good night everyone here ! Personnally , I just feel real sadness when I m watching from my confortable french tv set and handy the atrocities which are committed in Ukraina because it remembers me another one that my father used to tell me about before and which already occurred a long time ago . I really wish for Russia never have to face again with a real nazi threat specially if it should have nukes on its disposal and unfortunately with their agressive behaviour against their neighbors and their violent actions against them, they are creating nazis and they do not realize that in fact they are themselves become the losers of those that their grandparents used to fight for their own
survival . Have a good night ! Yours François

Zelensky was an actor but Putin is always a killer. Golden JD ,You seem to find these pictures of dead people very funny but if they are entirely made by actors they are very realistic even the comedians who played the role of persons desperate to recognize the dead body of their parents, sons or friends are very clever. There is surely thousands of deaths under the buildings destroyed by Russian army. All these ruins are also surely for you an artificial décor for a macabre staging. Difficult for me to say if you are in bad faith or it you really believe the propaganda that your government serves you. Some days before, satellite pictures already showed these crimes. In any cases there is something or someone very bad behind it all. Don’t you think so? Soviet Army made horrible slaughter during the Second World War but I could eventually excuse a person submitted to extreme stress to become a person without mercy. In this case a mad leader send his army to crush a neighboring country and its inhabitants only to fulfil his dream of power.
One day or another some movies will be done about this war, we will see who has the role of the villain.

Sir, we are pleased that you are very kind. But that news is false! If you look closely at the pictures of the Bucha incident, you will find that these bodies will move! 😂 Russian troops withdrew from Bucha on March 31, but why did these pictures appear a few days later? Don't you think there's a problem? China, like other countries, opposes that terrible massacre, if it is true. Our UN representatives strongly called for a thorough investigation of the Bucha incident, but your ally, the current rotating presidency of the United Nations, Britain, rejected their request. Isn't that weird? Don't forget that the president of Ukraine was once a comedian, and with the help of NATO - he evolved into a director. It's just a tragic film, but he still plays a comedy color. 😂 The Russian army will not massacre civilians. Even during the period of opposing Nazism, if Soviet soldiers massacred German civilians, they will be shot! Don't forget that the bag of washing powder in Iraq was slandered by you as biological and chemical weapons, and then you have an excuse to invade Iraq and overthrow their government. It's understandable. After all, Cannes Film Festival is famous all over the world. You need some new materials.

May I ask which footage you are referring to, where you claim to have seen moving bodies? I cannot confirm this assumption yet. On satellite images you can see bodies lying on the streets in Bucha on March 19, and the first video from Yablunska Street was from April 1.

Regarding the rejection of China's request for investigations in Bucha, I could not find any news for this claim, do you have more information for me there?

I agree that something like this needs to be examined closely and I hope that those responsible end up in court.

Of course, sir, Russia is a villain. 😂 Not only Russia, but also China, Belarus, North Korea, Iran and Cuba, which dare to oppose the western world, will always be villains. You will always be decent, superheroes, Spiderman and iron man. You can save the world. Because the West did win during the cold war, you can slander us and elevate yourself at will. Mr. Obama can win the Nobel Peace Prize. What else can't happen? If I remember correctly, he led NATO to overthrow the Libyan government. Of course, France is willing to work for your boss, the United States. What about Libya now? Better than the Gaddafi era? You always say we are a totalitarian state. What about you? There is a Chinese saying: "fifty steps laugh at a hundred steps." You blocked the Russian media and did not allow any views against the west to appear. I tell you, please don't slander us. Our humanity never dies. We love peace and uphold justice. Have you seen the actions of Ukrainian Nazis in Ukraine? Have you seen the overthrow of Ukraine's Pro Russian government by NATO and the chaos in Ukraine? Do you know that many women in Ukraine have become prostitutes? In fact, China has good relations with Ukraine, France and Russia. We don't want to see this. But why did Britain object when our representative spoke and called for a thorough investigation of the Bucha incident? Is Britain hiding something? This is ridiculous. Therefore, we don't know who carried out the massacre, because we didn't come to the scene in person. Besides, is there something wrong with President Putin's mind? Why did he launch this special military operation. He once wanted Russia to join NATO, but now Russia is deceived by you, the economy continues to decline, and Russia is gradually weakened. Only then does he become like this. I think we can have a clearer understanding of historical facts rather than listening to false reports. In addition, the Chinese people are kind, and I believe so are the French people. We don't want war to happen. But we need more communication and understanding 😂

Zelensky was an actor but Putin is always a killer. Golden JD ,You seem to find these pictures of dead people very funny but if they are entirely made by actors they are very realistic even the comedians who played the role of persons desperate to recognize the dead body of their parents, sons or friends are very clever. There is surely thousands of deaths under the buildings destroyed by Russian army. All these ruins are also surely for you an artificial décor for a macabre staging. Difficult for me to say if you are in bad faith or it you really believe the propaganda that your government serves you. Some days before, satellite pictures already showed these crimes. In any cases there is something or someone very bad behind it all. Don’t you think so? Soviet Army made horrible slaughter during the Second World War but I could eventually excuse a person submitted to extreme stress to become a person without mercy. In this case a mad leader send his army to crush a neighboring country and its inhabitants only to fulfil his dream of power.
One day or another some movies will be done about this war, we will see who has the role of the villain.

Bro,please take a closer look at that video. If the Bucha incident did happen, why didn't the United Nations send someone to investigate? Representatives of China and other countries strongly suggested that the United Nations send someone to investigate. Why did Britain refuse?

Sir, we are pleased that you are very kind. But that news is false! If you look closely at the pictures of the Bucha incident, you will find that these bodies will move! 😂 Russian troops withdrew from Bucha on March 31, but why did these pictures appear a few days later? Don't you think there's a problem? China, like other countries, opposes that terrible massacre, if it is true. Our UN representatives strongly called for a thorough investigation of the Bucha incident, but your ally, the current rotating presidency of the United Nations, Britain, rejected their request. Isn't that weird? Don't forget that the president of Ukraine was once a comedian, and with the help of NATO - he evolved into a director. It's just a tragic film, but he still plays a comedy color. 😂 The Russian army will not massacre civilians. Even during the period of opposing Nazism, if Soviet soldiers massacred German civilians, they will be shot! Don't forget that the bag of washing powder in Iraq was slandered by you as biological and chemical weapons, and then you have an excuse to invade Iraq and overthrow their government. It's understandable. After all, Cannes Film Festival is famous all over the world. You need some new materials.

May I ask which footage you are referring to, where you claim to have seen moving bodies? I cannot confirm this assumption yet. On satellite images you can see bodies lying on the streets in Bucha on March 19, and the first video from Yablunska Street was from April 1.

Regarding the rejection of China's request for investigations in Bucha, I could not find any news for this claim, do you have more information for me there?

I agree that something like this needs to be examined closely and I hope that those responsible end up in court.

Do you really believe in this propaganda? This is bullshit! There is a war, people are dying. The massacre in Bucza is real. I live in poland. Here you will meet thousands of people who are fleeing Ukraine. They leave their homes, families are torn apart. I don't need to watch TV to find out this cam is going on. People come to our border in terrible condition, they are hungry and often have not slept for many hours. This is not a fairy tale, but a reality taking place outside my country. Poles who live near the eastern border hear bombs exploding. They help injured people who managed to escape. I can't believe what you say. From the beginning of the war, we have been wondering which side China will stand on. If your country supports and helps Russia, it will be the beginning of World War III. If you do not believe that all this is really happening, then I invite you. Come to Poland to see people who are fleeing the war. Or visit Ukraine right away - Kyiv, Mariupol. This is not a show. Just a real war that should never break out. Maybe you can write me that this is a simple scam? I'm sorry, but I was on our border. I saw the tragedy of these people. Men married their families, young children, to fight for their homeland. Some of them will never meet again. I heard bomb blasts. If you don't believe what's happening here, come here. You will see for yourself what the truth is.

We will always help the just side, but many acts of the west make us not believe their reports. I know the war in Ukraine. I saw families in Ukraine break up. It's uncomfortable. But have you ever been to Bucha? We strongly called on the United Nations to investigate, but it was rejected by the UK.

Do you really believe in this propaganda? This is bullshit! There is a war, people are dying. The massacre in Bucza is real. I live in poland. Here you will meet thousands of people who are fleeing Ukraine. They leave their homes, families are torn apart. I don't need to watch TV to find out this cam is going on. People come to our border in terrible condition, they are hungry and often have not slept for many hours. This is not a fairy tale, but a reality taking place outside my country. Poles who live near the eastern border hear bombs exploding. They help injured people who managed to escape. I can't believe what you say. From the beginning of the war, we have been wondering which side China will stand on. If your country supports and helps Russia, it will be the beginning of World War III. If you do not believe that all this is really happening, then I invite you. Come to Poland to see people who are fleeing the war. Or visit Ukraine right away - Kyiv, Mariupol. This is not a show. Just a real war that should never break out. Maybe you can write me that this is a simple scam? I'm sorry, but I was on our border. I saw the tragedy of these people. Men married their families, young children, to fight for their homeland. Some of them will never meet again. I heard bomb blasts. If you don't believe what's happening here, come here. You will see for yourself what the truth is.

We prefer to investigate the matter objectively. Russia does fight in Ukraine, but the Bucha incident is not necessarily true. It is just fabricated, which makes you hate Russia more. Just like the slander of western countries on Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. That's so funny.

Do you really believe in this propaganda? This is bullshit! There is a war, people are dying. The massacre in Bucza is real. I live in poland. Here you will meet thousands of people who are fleeing Ukraine. They leave their homes, families are torn apart. I don't need to watch TV to find out this cam is going on. People come to our border in terrible condition, they are hungry and often have not slept for many hours. This is not a fairy tale, but a reality taking place outside my country. Poles who live near the eastern border hear bombs exploding. They help injured people who managed to escape. I can't believe what you say. From the beginning of the war, we have been wondering which side China will stand on. If your country supports and helps Russia, it will be the beginning of World War III. If you do not believe that all this is really happening, then I invite you. Come to Poland to see people who are fleeing the war. Or visit Ukraine right away - Kyiv, Mariupol. This is not a show. Just a real war that should never break out. Maybe you can write me that this is a simple scam? I'm sorry, but I was on our border. I saw the tragedy of these people. Men married their families, young children, to fight for their homeland. Some of them will never meet again. I heard bomb blasts. If you don't believe what's happening here, come here. You will see for yourself what the truth is.
Do you really believe in this propaganda? This is bullshit! There is a war, people are dying. The massacre in Bucza is real. I live in poland. Here you will meet thousands of people who are fleeing Ukraine. They leave their homes, families are torn apart. I don't need to watch TV to find out this cam is going on. People come to our border in terrible condition, they are hungry and often have not slept for many hours. This is not a fairy tale, but a reality taking place outside my country. Poles who live near the eastern border hear bombs exploding. They help injured people who managed to escape. I can't believe what you say. From the beginning of the war, we have been wondering which side China will stand on. If your country supports and helps Russia, it will be the beginning of World War III. If you do not believe that all this is really happening, then I invite you. Come to Poland to see people who are fleeing the war. Or visit Ukraine right away - Kyiv, Mariupol. This is not a show. Just a real war that should never break out. Maybe you can write me that this is a simple scam? I'm sorry, but I was on our border. I saw the tragedy of these people. Men married their families, young children, to fight for their homeland. Some of them will never meet again. I heard bomb blasts. If you don't believe what's happening here, come here. You will see for yourself what the truth is.

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