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To tell you the truth, sir, I envy your democracy very much. You can march on the streets, express different views, and make fun of your president with a talk show. But there is one question - have all your problems been solved? People just have the right to know the so-called truth and have the right to March, but there are many problems in your country that have not been solved. In addition, world peace will never be maintained by Americans

We still have many problems in our country. No country is perfect and without problems. I would be the first person to say that I do not think that the US and it's system are the best in the world, but I do appreciate the freedoms we have here.

China is an amazing country with a rich and wonderful history. There are many fantastic things which have come out of China that enrich people around the world. I also do not think that the people of China are bad people. It's the government I'm critical of not the people. I also don't blame the people for the government because the constraints of your systems perpetuate the government.

On the other hand I would say to a large degree we, the people of the United States, are largely responsible for our government. I would also say that the government is a skewed representation of our country based on our system. But the thing that we do have going for us that some countries don't have is we do have a relatively free press. There are definitely individuals and corporations that skew the information that's most readily available, but one does have the ability to fairly easily find opposition views.

I found a link about the journalists falling out of windows. Here it is:

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/21/604497554/why-do-russian-journalists-keep-falling

Sir, is there any problem with our government? You are not Chinese and don't know our real situation. What we see is that our lives are getting better and better. What we see is that we are winning the battle against COVID-19. We see countless corrupt officials being arrested. We also see that our GDP is increasing year by year, making the United States dare not bully China like bullying other countries. This is what we have seen with our own eyes, not brainwashed by the government. Are we 1.4 billion Chinese idiots? We have clear judgment. We also admit that every government is not perfect, but if you understand history, you will find that the Communist Party of China government is gradually carrying out reform to maximize the interests of the people, not the interests of politicians. Of course, American freedom is good, but are you really not afraid of COVID-19? Are you really not afraid of racial discrimination and gun violence? Why did democratic elections elect two funny old men, Trump and Biden? By the way, we might as well think from this perspective: if China does not develop well under the leadership of the Communist government, will the United States impose sanctions on the Chinese government? Because we are developing too well and threatening the interests of the United States, the United States will fabricate all kinds of lies to slander China. Anyway, you are welcome to have the opportunity to visit China, because I think you are a friendly and rational person.

To tell you the truth, sir, I envy your democracy very much. You can march on the streets, express different views, and make fun of your president with a talk show. But there is one question - have all your problems been solved? People just have the right to know the so-called truth and have the right to March, but there are many problems in your country that have not been solved. In addition, world peace will never be maintained by Americans

We still have many problems in our country. No country is perfect and without problems. I would be the first person to say that I do not think that the US and it's system are the best in the world, but I do appreciate the freedoms we have here.

China is an amazing country with a rich and wonderful history. There are many fantastic things which have come out of China that enrich people around the world. I also do not think that the people of China are bad people. It's the government I'm critical of not the people. I also don't blame the people for the government because the constraints of your systems perpetuate the government.

On the other hand I would say to a large degree we, the people of the United States, are largely responsible for our government. I would also say that the government is a skewed representation of our country based on our system. But the thing that we do have going for us that some countries don't have is we do have a relatively free press. There are definitely individuals and corporations that skew the information that's most readily available, but one does have the ability to fairly easily find opposition views.

I found a link about the journalists falling out of windows. Here it is:

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/21/604497554/why-do-russian-journalists-keep-falling

"To tell you the truth, sir, I envy your democracy very much. You can march on the streets, express different views, and make fun of your president with a talk show. But there is one question - have all your problems been solved? People just have the right to know the so-called truth and have the right to March, but there are many problems in your country that have not been solved. In addition, world peace will never be maintained by Americans"

I think that world peace is maintained by America but challenged by Anti-Western Hate.

Really? Are your warships cruising around the world for peace? You bombed the Yugoslav embassy for peace? Are you building biological laboratories around the world for peace? For the sake of biological experimental data, you pardoned Unit 731, who committed crimes in China, for the sake of peace? Oh, handsome Mr. America, I have never opposed the United States or the West. I recognize the contribution of the United States to human development, but it is foolish to be self-centered in everything, just as Christianity once believed that the earth is the center of the universe. And if you really have confidence, why are you afraid of China's rise? Why sanction China?

"To tell you the truth, sir, I envy your democracy very much. You can march on the streets, express different views, and make fun of your president with a talk show. But there is one question - have all your problems been solved? People just have the right to know the so-called truth and have the right to March, but there are many problems in your country that have not been solved. In addition, world peace will never be maintained by Americans"

I think that world peace is maintained by America but challenged by Anti-Western Hate.

Long live the Great America! I wish the United States as handsome as you, humorous as trump and lovely as Biden .😂😂😂

"To tell you the truth, sir, I envy your democracy very much. You can march on the streets, express different views, and make fun of your president with a talk show. But there is one question - have all your problems been solved? People just have the right to know the so-called truth and have the right to March, but there are many problems in your country that have not been solved. In addition, world peace will never be maintained by Americans"

I think that world peace is maintained by America but challenged by Anti-Western Hate.

I think that world peace is maintained by America but challenged by Anti-Western Hate.
America is the one responsible for many conflicts during the last 40 years, including, partly, Ukraine as mentionned here in the beginning of the topic... I don't see exactly how is America a peace keeper while it's now provoking China just like it used to provoke Russia with Ukraine/NATO by sending around 60% of its fleet in Chinese sea and showing its big pee pee to China. I don't see how it is keeping peace when it bullshits its way to make wars in Iraq while it just wants to secure a reserve of oil, or when it goes to Libya. I don't see how it is trying to keep the world peace when it explicitly says that it has a plan to """prevent""" China and Russia to rise and to be has strong as US.

Russia is sure no better than US and is imperialist too (and so is China), but what the US is doing since 15 years is just pushing Russia to get closer to CHina instead of the West and their alliance sure is enough to contest the "Western" (aka US) hegemony. The funniest in this is that China learnt its lesson very well from its history, whereas the West, who used the pride of the Qing dynasty, is commiting the exact same mistake, thinking that every countries but them are shitholes.

Sir, is there any problem with our government?

Here are the problems I have with the Chinese government.

1. The occupation and repression of Nepal and it's people. I know it's a rather old issue but it could be cleared up by giving Nepal it's freedom again.

2. Chinese treatment of Uighurs. I know many people don't believe this is true, but I have seen enough evidence myself in various reporting to believe it is true. Let's see if you have access to this Wikipedia article on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide The articles has attributions for all of it's claims so you should be able to check the original articles (if they're available to you) and decide for yourself whether or not they're credible to you.

3. Chinese creation of artificial islands in the South China Sea and their claims of making international waters Chinese waters in violation of international law.

4. Persecution of pro-democracy protestors and the pro-democracy movement.

5. Internal surveillance of it's own citizens through facial recognition software.

6. State supported surveillance and harassment of Chinese living abroad.

7. Censorship of foreign media showing positive portrayals of LGBT+ relationships.

You are not Chinese and don't know our real situation.

You're right, I'm not Chinese but I do believe that those of us outside of China who are not Chinese can get a reasonably accurate picture of what goes on inside of China. It would be better if China allowed foreign journalists free reign in their country (outside of national security restrictions which I consider reasonable) to report on what they've heard.

What we see is that our lives are getting better and better.

The end does not justify the means. I do think that it's reasonable for the lives of the people of China to get better and better but not at the expense of others. I also am against gains made in the US at the expense of others.

What we see is that we are winning the battle against COVID-19.

I do agree that your form of government and the control of it's people does help it perform better in a pandemic situation. I also think that if the rest of the world had followed the Chinese response to Covid that it wouldn't have had as much of an impact as it had.


We see countless corrupt officials being arrested. We also see that our GDP is increasing year by year, making the United States dare not bully China like bullying other countries. This is what we have seen with our own eyes, not brainwashed by the government. Are we 1.4 billion Chinese idiots?

I have never said that the Chinese are idiots and wouldn't do so. However your access to information is restricted so that you are not able to consider everything that people outside of China are basing their opinions on.

There are people here in the United States who only get their information from Fox News who are "self censoring" themselves. Some of them believe a lot of things that have been credibly shown to be untrue.

We have clear judgment. We also admit that every government is not perfect, but if you understand history, you will find that the Communist Party of China government is gradually carrying out reform to maximize the interests of the people, not the interests of politicians. Of course, American freedom is good, but are you really not afraid of COVID-19? Are you really not afraid of racial discrimination and gun violence? Why did democratic elections elect two funny old men, Trump and Biden?

I'm not afraid of them but I am concerned by them. The US does have a gun problem and part of it is government induced lack of information. Those supporting gun rights have restricted government agencies from accurately collecting and reporting on gun violence.

Racial discrimination is a big problem as well as you point out, but I believe it would be there no matter what type of government we had. However it's those people who support a more restrictive, authoritarian government who are more racist than those who support open, freedom rich government policies and laws.


By the way, we might as well think from this perspective: if China does not develop well under the leadership of the Communist government, will the United States impose sanctions on the Chinese government? Because we are developing too well and threatening the interests of the United States, the United States will fabricate all kinds of lies to slander China.

I have yet to see any credible proof against the reporting that's labeled lies or slander. Once again if these things are not true why doesn't the Chinese government invite journalists to see things for themselves without any restrictions on or surveillance their movements and who they are speaking with? Also why doesn't the Chinese government allow organizations such as Amnesty International access to those regions to work with the people who they say are being oppressed. Amnesty International often has negative things to say about the US and I believe is generally considered a fair and accurate organization.

Anyway, you are welcome to have the opportunity to visit China, because I think you are a friendly and rational person.

I would like to visit China someday.

The Chinese are provoking unrest by claiming ownership of the sea that are used by other nations in the area. That is why the US makes good use of the sea so that things can be shared by business.

And for those in China who are taking advantage of the plight of the Indiginous Native American population, I think it is not in China's place to blame the US for it. Being a descendant of Native Americans I can say that we do not hold the Europeans in comtemt for political purposes to hurt out nation's unity as some outsiders wish to introduce.

Sir, you mean that when every country allows the United States to garrison troops on their land and become American slaves or running dogs, like Japan and Ukraine, the world will be peaceful, right? Once again, the Chinese do not hate Americans. We oppose American imperialism. In the eyes of imperialists, everyone who pursues peace and opposes aggression and expansion is evil.

The Chinese are provoking unrest by claiming ownership of the sea that are used by other nations in the area. That is why the US makes good use of the sea so that things can be shared by business.
The Chinese are provoking unrest by claiming ownership of the sea that are used by other nations in the area. That is why the US makes good use of the sea so that things can be shared by business.
And for those in China who are taking advantage of the plight of the Indiginous Native American population, I think it is not in China's place to blame the US for it. Being a descendant of Native Americans I can say that we do not hold the Europeans in comtemt for political purposes to hurt out nation's unity as some outsiders wish to introduce.

The Chinese are provoking unrest by claiming ownership of the sea that are used by other nations in the area. That is why the US makes good use of the sea so that things can be shared by business.
As far as I know, the US are located in North America, not in the Chinese sea. Funnily in your second post, it is not China's job to take care of the problems in the US, but it certainly is US' job to take part of the problems of asian countries (between or within), just like it was to deal with middle East, Balkans or Eastern Europe, Vietnam or Korea... Double standards, when you hold us...

I think The US government and the west leaders ( i am not talking about the people in both countries ) has pushed putin and russia to enter this war

Mr Poly,
Hello, sir. I'm glad to communicate with you again.
I repeat my point: every government is not perfect. But I would like to make some explanations for your perception.
1. China did not oppress Nepal, but cooperated with Nepal. We all know that Nepal is a relatively backward country, but we are assisting them, such as building railways. As we all know, the world-famous Mount Everest is located on the border between China and Nepal. China does not monopolize Mount Everest, let alone other land in Nepal.
2. For Uighurs, I may believe your information is true, but your information ignores one point, that is, these Uighurs are a small part of Chinese Uighurs, and they are members of cult organizations or separatists. Our news has also reported that they have complained in front of the US government, which is in the interests of Americans - they want China to split. When I was in primary school, they made an explosion at the railway station and separated countless families from their wives and children, endangering national security. If someone splits the United States, will your government support him in the name of democracy? I don't think any government will show mercy to separatists. The Chinese government gives preferential treatment to most Uighurs and other ethnic minorities. You must know that during the period of family planning, each Chinese couple is allowed to have only one child, while ethnic minorities are not restricted. For the college entrance examination, ethnic minorities also have extra points. The government respects their beliefs. Although the Communist government is atheist, it respects the beliefs of others. I can testify that there is a mosque in the center of our city. Many Uighurs gather there to sell beef and Nang cakes. Business is very good.
3. On the issue of waters, I think we just want to maintain national security, because the US fleet patrols near the Chinese waters every day. I don't know what they want to do? We don't want to be garrisoned and become a vassal of the United States like Japan or South Korea.
4. On the issue of democracy, I think our way of democracy is different. Each has its own advantages and disadvantages. During the epidemic prevention and control period, if local officials are not well protected, many people criticize them on the Internet, and those officials who do not act will be immediately dismissed, rather than voting at all levels like you. I think our method is arbitrary, but very efficient and beneficial in the face of major events. I know what you mean by the democratic movement. As a young man, I know what students think, but students are too young after all. It is impossible to transform the world only by their own fantasies. Regarding the Hong Kong incident, did you see those Hong Kong Independence elements persecuting innocent people? More than 20 years after Hong Kong's return to China, the government treats Hong Kong like a spoiled child, allowing them to develop freely and giving them funds. However, this child is still very naughty and even harmful to others. What do you think should be done?
5. The monitoring problem is made out of nothing. China has a population of 1.4 billion. Does the government have nothing to do to monitor the people every day? This statement is both ignorant and boring. 😂 Can you guarantee that there is no problem with social software in the United States? What about Snowden?
6. I'm afraid the Chinese government doesn't have so much free time to send people to track overseas Chinese every day.
7. I have to admit that China is a relatively conservative country, not as open as the West. However, Chinese people are gradually accepting sexual minorities. China has long removed homosexuality and other behaviors from the list of mental diseases, and we can see descriptions of this on various social media. However, the acceptance of sexual minorities in the West also has a process, right? Turing, the inventor of the computer, was persecuted by the British government for being gay.
8. There is no racism in China, and our 56 ethnic groups are very united.
9. China and the West have different understandings of dictatorship and democracy. But I think the meaning of the government is to make people's life better. I think the Communist Party of China government has completely done it.
10. Under the pressure of the United States, the World Health Organization has repeatedly investigated the biological laboratory in Wuhan, but the United States has never opened the biological laboratory for world investigation, especially Fort Detrick, which is the most suspected.
11. Welcome to China. I believe you will see a more real side of China.

Replying to GoldenDJ's post

1. - My bad, I typed Nepal when I meant Tibet. I'd just read an article about Tibetan activists who had crossed the border to Nepal and got things mixed up.

2. Here's the first paragraph in the Wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide:

The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang that is often characterized as genocide. Since 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, has pursued policies that incarcerated more than an estimated one million Turkic Muslims in internment camps without any legal process.[3][4][5] This is the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.[6][7] Thousands of mosques have been destroyed or damaged,[8] and hundreds of thousands of children have been forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools.[9][10]

To me that sounds like a lot more than going after terrorists. I do agree that a terrorist should be arrested and tried no matter what ethnic or religious background they have. However this seems to be widespread persecution and abuse.

I have no doubt that some if not all Uyghurs are well treated in their communities outside of Xinjiang. However that doesn't excuse what's been reported about the treatment of them in their ancestral territory.

3. I'm perfectly fine with China maintaining it's security in its territorial waters. What I have a problem with is China creating artificial islands to extend their territorial waters and then trying to use the rules regarding U.N. recognized archipelagic states.

4. I'm not opposed to the Chinese democracy itself, I'm opposed to the persecution of those trying to change it from within the system and through non-violent protests.

5. According to the article https://www.npr.org/2021/01/05/953515627/facial-recognition-and-beyond-journalist-ventures-inside-chinas-surveillance-sta :

Security cameras and facial recognition technology are on the rise in China. In 2018, People's Daily, the media mouthpiece of China's ruling Communist Party, claimed on English-language Twitter that the country's facial recognition system was capable of scanning the faces of China's 1.4 billion citizens in just one second.

One doesn't have to have live monitoring in order to use such data. In fact it makes much more sense to use the stored data to track a person's activity through big data retrieval and AI pattern recognition to find possible activists.

Since the United States is a collection of states, some of them have excellent rules governing use of facial recognition software and other surveillance. Other states are moving towards more obtrusive use of such technology. I'm opposed to those states using such technology also.

6. Our US Department of Justice just indicted three individuals for working as agents of the Chinese government to spy on and/or intimidate several Chinese nationals who live here in the United states. So they are paying people to do it, not doing it themselves. Two of the three individuals became concerned with what they were doing, went to the FBI and then cooperated in having their communications monitored by the FBI.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/justice-department-accuses-chinese-agents-trying-intimate-critics-us-rcna20306

7. IIWII (it is what it is). I was listing something I didn't like about the Chinese Government. I agree that there are other countries who are far worse than China in their treatment of LGBT+ individuals and information.

8. I'll take your word for it.

9. I disagree with you but accept your opinion as yours.

10. I've always believed that the Covid virus came about in the Chinese wet market as a significant number of scientists believe.

We'll see if we can make it there. Only time will tell.

"China Sea" is an example of imperialistic expansion into other countries economic routes of transportation. I think next time there will be no more Imperialistic Expansion following how the world has seen the invasion of Ukraine and how the world has responded appropriately.

"China Sea" is an example of imperialistic expansion into other countries economic routes of transportation. I think next time there will be no more Imperialistic Expansion following how the world has seen the invasion of Ukraine and how the world has responded appropriately.
Your government sending half of its navy to ensure that it "contains" China and remains the first power isn't imperialism, maybe? Soft power, "international law" made by and for the US (that they violate all the time...), some institution, illegal sanctions aren't form of imperialism?
There sure will be more response from China and Russia. They will do their stuff on their side, with countries like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela that are ostracized by the West and eventually middle eastern and African countries. Occident isn't alone in the world, and its power is decreasing... Actually, we are the ones isolating ourselves from the other countries nowadays.
BAck to China specifically, they'd sure take measure in Taiwan or another place quickly, just like Russia in Ukraine, if they felt like the US is too pushy. After all, they did it in Hong Kong despite all the shit left by the anglo and the support of the US there.

As for "appropriate response", do you call a response that not only punish the citizen of RUssia but also most of the citizen in Europe, but that probably give an opportunity, on the mid-long term, to the olligarchs an "appropriate response"? Russia already got prepared for sanctions and now takes counter measures to deal with them... Plus, what about th russophobia that is emerging more and more and that is now allowed in the West? Do you consider cancelling people like Yuri Gagarin or Tchaikovsky, the attack on russians and russian restaurant in the West, the people going nut on a dish called "poutine" (name of Putin in French, but the dish has nothing to do with the president of Russia) something appropriate and responsible?
More than all, are responses that fire up a situation "good responses"?

I personally don't, and I'm waiting for the US to get some sanctions for its crimes someday too, becuase there was nothing for screwing South America, for Bringing Pinochet, for starving Cubans, for invading Iraq, for creating ISIS and Talibans...

Edited by Lianshen .

If USA does something all its followers will do that, USA creates enemies for itself by creating 'anti communist' drafts. USA had nothing to do in Libya, why did they go? to bankrupt the soviets. US likes to blow their taxpayers money on useless things like vietnam and afghanistan

Thank you for your voice of justice, sir. It can be seen that you have seriously studied history, but there is an old Chinese saying called “ play the lute to a cow”and "summer insects cannot speak ice". I am about to give up arguing with these people who do not study history. 😂😂😂

"China Sea" is an example of imperialistic expansion into other countries economic routes of transportation. I think next time there will be no more Imperialistic Expansion following how the world has seen the invasion of Ukraine and how the world has responded appropriately.
Your government sending half of its navy to ensure that it "contains" China and remains the first power isn't imperialism, maybe? Soft power, "international law" made by and for the US (that they violate all the time...), some institution, illegal sanctions aren't form of imperialism?
There sure will be more response from China and Russia. They will do their stuff on their side, with countries like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela that are ostracized by the West and eventually middle eastern and African countries. Occident isn't alone in the world, and its power is decreasing... Actually, we are the ones isolating ourselves from the other countries nowadays.
BAck to China specifically, they'd sure take measure in Taiwan or another place quickly, just like Russia in Ukraine, if they felt like the US is too pushy. After all, they did it in Hong Kong despite all the shit left by the anglo and the support of the US there.

As for "appropriate response", do you call a response that not only punish the citizen of RUssia but also most of the citizen in Europe, but that probably give an opportunity, on the mid-long term, to the olligarchs an "appropriate response"? Russia already got prepared for sanctions and now takes counter measures to deal with them... Plus, what about th russophobia that is emerging more and more and that is now allowed in the West? Do you consider cancelling people like Yuri Gagarin or Tchaikovsky, the attack on russians and russian restaurant in the West, the people going nut on a dish called "poutine" (name of Putin in French, but the dish has nothing to do with the president of Russia) something appropriate and responsible?
More than all, are responses that fire up a situation "good responses"?

I personally don't, and I'm waiting for the US to get some sanctions for its crimes someday too, becuase there was nothing for screwing South America, for Bringing Pinochet, for starving Cubans, for invading Iraq, for creating ISIS and Talibans...


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