Abortion

What You are saying is generally... Right, I personally consider abortion as something completely wrong, tragedious, evil even, often.

But would You put a blame of "murder" on girl in such situation? Because it's very unfair. Life is too complex to expect that everyone will be walking embodiment of right choices.

And You can't, just can't tell which one is more right and less wrong: abortion/mother that gives birth to child but will commit suicide/surrender due to situation and inability to deal with it mentally.

In some situations it's just not so simple, world is not like that.

So while I am pro life and against abortion as "oh, it's just uncomfortable" - it is not so simple to tell someone what exactly life means, for who, and predict the consequences.

You say it's unfair to blame someone for murder? Is it fair to take the life of an innocent human being? Abortion is the deliberate killing of a child before birth and that is a biological and moral fact, not just an opinion.

The abortion industry (large corporations that profit from this) treats human life as a commodity. There are serious reports and controversies regarding the trade of fetal organs and tissue from these procedures - this is the ultimate dehumanization where a child's body is treated as "spare parts" for profit. These organizations don't care about women; they perform the procedure, take the money, and leave the woman alone to face the trauma and guilt that often lead to severe depression.

Regarding suicide, medical studies and data cited by experts show that the risk of mental health problems and suicide rates are actually higher after an abortion compared to women who carry their pregnancy to term, even in difficult circumstances. Abortion is not a solution for mental health issues; it is a new source of trauma. If a woman is in distress, she needs real support, psychiatric care and compassion - not a murder.

In the case of abortion, one life is CERTAINLY taken. In your example of suicide, it is a tragic POSSIBILITY that we must work to prevent through support, not by killing someone else.

As for life's complexity, look at before mentioned Cristiano Ronaldo. By pro-death ideologists he was predestined to have terrible life. And somehow he became world class footballer with excellent athleticism and longevity. Every child deserves that chance, no matter how difficult the situation seems at the start.

I don’t think abortion is an easy choice for any women. Okay let’s say there are shelters for women which they may be able to use to help them but what if they loneliness leads them to become drug addicts or alcohol addicts (I’m not saying this happens all the time) but this might lead the mothers to be abusive towards their child. We have so many adults who come forward and talk about how abuse has shaped their lives and how it’s still impacting them.

I understand your concern, nobody wants to see abused children. But does that justify deliberate ending the life of completely innocent and vulnerable children?

There are no "let's say" shelters, there are actual shelters specifically designed for pregnant women in distress. If my country (which has lower economical standard than yours) has shelters, I am sure that your country has even better ones. There are also many international organisations with same mission. Maria gave you 2 examples but there are more of them. Regarding abusing and becoming addicted, check Cristiano Ronaldo's example.

You say it's unfair to blame someone for murder? Is it fair to take the life of an innocent human being? Abortion is the deliberate killing of a child before birth and that is a biological and moral fact, not just an opinion.

The abortion industry (large corporations that profit from this) treats human life as a commodity. There are serious reports and controversies regarding the trade of fetal organs and tissue from these procedures - this is the ultimate dehumanization where a child's body is treated as "spare parts" for profit. These organizations don't care about women; they perform the procedure, take the money, and leave the woman alone to face the trauma and guilt that often lead to severe depression.

Regarding suicide, medical studies and data cited by experts show that the risk of mental health problems and suicide rates are actually higher after an abortion compared to women who carry their pregnancy to term, even in difficult circumstances. Abortion is not a solution for mental health issues; it is a new source of trauma. If a woman is in distress, she needs real support, psychiatric care and compassion - not a murder.

In the case of abortion, one life is CERTAINLY taken. In your example of suicide, it is a tragic POSSIBILITY that we must work to prevent through support, not by killing someone else.

As for life's complexity, look at before mentioned Cristiano Ronaldo. By pro-death ideologists he was predestined to have terrible life. And somehow he became world class footballer with excellent athleticism and longevity. Every child deserves that chance, no matter how difficult the situation seems at the start.

I understand your concern, nobody wants to see abused children. But does that justify deliberate ending the life of completely innocent and vulnerable children?

There are no "let's say" shelters, there are actual shelters specifically designed for pregnant women in distress. If my country (which has lower economical standard than yours) has shelters, I am sure that your country has even better ones. There are also many international organisations with same mission. Maria gave you 2 examples but there are more of them. Regarding abusing and becoming addicted, check Cristiano Ronaldo's example.

Yes, I will say it again: blaming someone of murder, in situation You have no idea about, is unright.

You call this a murder - do You even know how many people don't consider it this way? Without judging if it is or not - use the strongest words You want, it's your perception. I agree, generally, but it doesn't matter.

You are no less emotional here, than another person, earlier in this topic, who was pro-choice.

Also, from what I know, there is no data showing that abortion is predictor of traumas or that after this proceder mental health is going down. Give me data if You have, (you of course will find something for pro life - and for pro choice side, because there are studies made for each worldview and thesis. But It's methodologically problematic) but Im still saying: people deciding for abortion, usually presents different perspective of when the life of human starts and don't consider it as "murder".

And don't talk about abortion industry, how evil it is, etc, because I know all of that, Ive heard that, don't make this discussion drifting away.

There is difference between abortion on demand as solution to birth - and - rare, but real and still happening situations when it's related to health problems, condition of potential mother or child and just... Circumstances. And You are not in position to blame young women who makes such decision, because you don't know her and don't know the case.

Blame the groups that propagate such proceder as something normal and good and as human right, but don't feel qualified to make judgments about little percent of specifical and fragile cases where it's not so simple.

idk guys war kills people too