Abortion

That only makes sense if we already grant that abortion is wrong. Obviously, if it is, talking about bodily autonomy makes no sense. If I make a mistake out of irresponsibility, but the solution is simple, it's all good. In this case, the question is not why people have abortions or whether having made a mistake that could have been avoided justifies doing something that's morally wrong (the answer is no, of course), but whether that thing really is wrong.

I should've said, but my answer was aimed mostly at pro-abortion people, because although intuitively I lean towards thinking it should be allowed, I can only think of arguments for the anti-abortion side.

I understand your viewpoint. I apologise for not understanding you weren't replying to me.

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I am 100 percent pro-life.

I am 100 percent pro-life.

100%? As in there is no conceivable situation in which an abortion would be the reasonable thing to do?

I fully approve of helping a pregnant woman keep her unborn child if she so desires. Nevertheless, I find this current obsession with life on the part of believers astonishing. For centuries, the Church has massacred millions of well-born people in the most horrific ways without it raising the slightest qualm of conscience.

I fully approve of helping a pregnant woman keep her unborn child if she so desires. Nevertheless, I find this current obsession with life on the part of believers astonishing. For centuries, the Church has massacred millions of well-born people in the most horrific ways without it raising the slightest qualm of conscience.

I think that's a little unfair on religion. Like, the Church itself admits that its past actions were wrong (obviously); them making mistakes (big mistakes, a millennia-long series of huge intentional mistakes) doesn't immediately invalidate their position. Plus, it's ridiculous to blame 21st-century believers for the past actions of the institution they now follow.

100%? As in there is no conceivable situation in which an abortion would be the reasonable thing to do?

For me, yes. (The only exception I know is the tubal pregnancy. There is no way - from what I know, maybe the medicine has better knowledge now? - to save the child. And the mother would die, too. But this is really the only exception I know.

Personally, I would even give my life if I could save my baby (if I had one), e.g. when cancer and pregnancy etc.