Palestina

  • 147
  • 12
  • 30

@Pennarossa2024,, @NILU1234, @Etienne, @Simone724, @mayuuram, @Sarahsalah27, @Esma-Nur, @Annika2007, @Emmiiii_17_11, @Miss_Penpal, @Sabri_KC, @elizabethtay836, @martutuni, @Roseeeee, @-Kiki-, @Txya, @Lianshen, @LandRoverDiscovery2 @Yue_why dont all countries help while there is a genocide going on in palestine. so many years ago the same thing happened when there was a genocide going on between hutsi and tutsi. i really dont understand how world leaders and humanity can allow this. shame on you world really shame on you.i will never forgot this because i was a little child and i cried everynight when this happend and now it happens again ......Rwandan genocide

1994 genocide in Rwanda

The Rwandan genocide was a genocide that took place in 1994 in the African country of Rwanda. During this genocide, an estimated 500,000 to 1 million[1] Tutsis (approximately 70% of the total population) and moderate Hutus were murdered over a period of 100 days, from April 7 to July 15, 1994. Most of the killings were committed by two Hutu militias, the Interahamwe, a youth militia of the ruling MRND party, and the Impuzamugambi of the extremist The international peacekeeping force stationed in the region, UNAMIR, did not intervene due to its limited mandate. This has drawn much criticism from the United Nations and especially from members of the Security Council. The genocide was stopped by the Tutsi rebel movement known as the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF), led by Paul Kagame. After the RPF's victory, Kagame became vice president and minister of defense. He has been president of Rwanda since 2000.


         
				
Editado por Fleurke .

Wars never end, genocide is a normal state of humanity. The UN is an absolutely useless organization, one can even say more - a harmful organization, for example, the movement regulating migration - when residents of some poor country are resettled to a richer one. Maybe the residents of this rich country think that poor newcomers will work for them? and give them the corresponding rights. But nothing of the sort, if you give too many rights - newcomers become so impudent - that they begin to attack local residents and hate them. The only thing that the UN can achieve with such resettlement is that newcomers will turn the country they came to - into the same shit where they come from.
and have UN peacekeepers helped anyone in history? I don't know of any such cases.

and don't worry about others - worry about yourself and your family, and at most about your country

Several factors I think. For me personally, it's just that Palestine is not my fight at all. I live far from there, I feel no sense of belonging with either israelis or Palestinians, but rather problems when those people come in France, and the same way I cannot help everyone in the street, I cannot help every victims of wars.

More than that, I often hear solidarity with Palestinians, but rarely did I hear about Yemen or other regions of the world. Even for the Uyghurs, nobody talked about it before being used in an anti China narrative (and it has been widely forgotten since then).

I agree with @Lianshen that, as a Westerner, this is something I (we) feel disconnected about because it's very far away from us (geographically and culturally). As he and @Fleurke noted, we don't really hear about other conflicts, whether it's the ongoing segregation in South Africa against the Boers, or persecutions of Christians in most of the Middle East or parts of Africa. There are some double standards, which in this case can be explained by a strong sense of tribalism within the growing Muslim community. At the end of the day this is a good reminder that it mostly comes down to racial/religious frictions in disguise, like we've seen in the entire history of mankind. Now I'm not sure importing conflicts that we have no part in will help build unity and prosperity, especially when the reality is definitely not as one sided as some claim it is 🙁 (this goes to all conflicts, not just this one).

Well, to be honest, I feel bad about the news and all, but living in the region I have been born and raised in, I have other struggles to care about: ours.

To me it seems highly pretentious to air any flag in support of anyone else when in my own home we are struggling constantly. And I'm not talking only about Argentina. I get the outrage and sadness, but nowadays it just seems like something people talk about to show themselves empathetic towards a topic that is “popular”. Where was this empathy for the Uyghurs, like @Lianshen pointed out?

Where was this empathy when 6 years ago Chile was in danger of placing a dictatorship, where many people disappeared and many others died?

Where was this empathy when the Amazon forest and the Patagonia were burning down because high companies wanted to take their resources and land? Or when Colombia and Venezuela were about to burst into civil wars?

Where was this empathy when around 1980 Argentina (and many other LATAM countries) was under a dictatorship orchestrated by the US government where thousands of people were murdered being accused of being communists?

I'm (not) sorry, but we have struggles of our own, I have to put my strength and efforts into caring for ours, and not posting a flag extremely foreign to me on Instagram to look aligned with the popular agenda.

Well, to be honest, I feel bad about the news and all, but living in the region I have been born and raised in, I have other struggles to care about: ours.

To me it seems highly pretentious to air any flag in support of anyone else when in my own home we are struggling constantly. And I'm not talking only about Argentina. I get the outrage and sadness, but nowadays it just seems like something people talk about to show themselves empathetic towards a topic that is “popular”. Where was this empathy for the Uyghurs, like @Lianshen pointed out?

Where was this empathy when 6 years ago Chile was in danger of placing a dictatorship, where many people disappeared and many others died?

Where was this empathy when the Amazon forest and the Patagonia were burning down because high companies wanted to take their resources and land? Or when Colombia and Venezuela were about to burst into civil wars?

Where was this empathy when around 1980 Argentina (and many other LATAM countries) was under a dictatorship orchestrated by the US government where thousands of people were murdered being accused of being communists?

I'm (not) sorry, but we have struggles of our own, I have to put my strength and efforts into caring for ours, and not posting a flag extremely foreign to me on Instagram to look aligned with the popular agenda.

Yes i agree because nowdays lots of people on instageam just put things ,about palestina just for the vieuws anyway i dont like look at wars . Seeing people struggle for everythingbreaks my heart i hope it will never come here

@Pennarossa2024,, @NILU1234, @Etienne, @Simone724, @mayuuram, @Sarahsalah27, @Esma-Nur, @Annika2007, @Emmiiii_17_11, @Miss_Penpal, @Sabri_KC, @allstarcheer, @martutuni, @Roseeeee, @-Kiki-, @Txya, @Lianshen, @LandRoverDiscovery2 @Yue_why dont all countries help while there is a genocide going on in palestine. so many years ago the same thing happened when there was a genocide going on between hutsi and tutsi. i really dont understand how world leaders and humanity can allow this. shame on you world really shame on you.i will never forgot this because i was a little child and i cried everynight when this happend and now it happens again ......Rwandan genocide

1994 genocide in Rwanda

The Rwandan genocide was a genocide that took place in 1994 in the African country of Rwanda. During this genocide, an estimated 500,000 to 1 million[1] Tutsis (approximately 70% of the total population) and moderate Hutus were murdered over a period of 100 days, from April 7 to July 15, 1994. Most of the killings were committed by two Hutu militias, the Interahamwe, a youth militia of the ruling MRND party, and the Impuzamugambi of the extremist The international peacekeeping force stationed in the region, UNAMIR, did not intervene due to its limited mandate. This has drawn much criticism from the United Nations and especially from members of the Security Council. The genocide was stopped by the Tutsi rebel movement known as the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF), led by Paul Kagame. After the RPF's victory, Kagame became vice president and minister of defense. He has been president of Rwanda since 2000.



The State of Israel has the right to defend itself. The Israeli government must punish those guilty of barbaric acts. But the Israeli government does not have the right to exterminate all the inhabitants of Gaza. And Trump does not have the power to deport the inhabitants of Gaza. Do the people who live in Gaza support Hamas? Yes, but the Italians also supported Mussolini and the Germans supported Hitler. So all Italians and Germans had to be killed? There are systems of government that brainwash their citizens with propaganda. Netanyahu is a disgrace to all humanity.

Woefully, genocide is an ambiguous term. The definition of Genocide is made up of two elements, the physical element — the acts committed; and the mental element — the intent. . Intent is the most difficult element to determine. If you can't determine it incontestably, then all atrocities fall into the category of "crime against humanity." To constitute genocide, it also needs to be established that the victims are deliberately targeted — not randomly — This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, or even a part of it, but not its members as individuals.

An intent to "ethnically cleanse" an area is clearly different to the specific intent to commit genocide, which Article II defines as the "intent to destroy the group to which they belong, in whole or in part". The proof of an intent to "ethnically cleanse" of a given geographical area only requires evidence that the perpetrators had intended to force the migration of the members of a given ethnic group from that territory, so that another ethnic group will attain dominance over the area. This is clearly different to the genocidal intent of destroying that group in whole or in part.

Despite its unique strengths, the Convention has not been much invoked by prosecutors seeking to punish atrocities in the international community. It has been argued that they were deterred from bringing actions in genocide because of the difficult evidentiary requirements of proving specific genocidal intent in Article II of the Convention.

In a nutshell, the lack of these evidentiary requirements gives Israel credits to generate plausible arguments against all the charges. When Israel forces destroy a building in which Palestinian families are killed, they will claim that no war crime was committed because the building was a "military target". As the UN debates about the convention show, people understood that “military necessity” allows states in theory to kill as many civilians as you would in a genocide. This is the “loophole” in international humanitarian law or in the laws and customs of war.

Woefully, genocide is an ambiguous term. The definition of Genocide is made up of two elements, the physical element — the acts committed; and the mental element — the intent. . Intent is the most difficult element to determine. If you can't determine it incontestably, then all atrocities fall into the category of "crime against humanity." To constitute genocide, it also needs to be established that the victims are deliberately targeted — not randomly — This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, or even a part of it, but not its members as individuals.

An intent to "ethnically cleanse" an area is clearly different to the specific intent to commit genocide, which Article II defines as the "intent to destroy the group to which they belong, in whole or in part". The proof of an intent to "ethnically cleanse" of a given geographical area only requires evidence that the perpetrators had intended to force the migration of the members of a given ethnic group from that territory, so that another ethnic group will attain dominance over the area. This is clearly different to the genocidal intent of destroying that group in whole or in part.

Despite its unique strengths, the Convention has not been much invoked by prosecutors seeking to punish atrocities in the international community. It has been argued that they were deterred from bringing actions in genocide because of the difficult evidentiary requirements of proving specific genocidal intent in Article II of the Convention.

In a nutshell, the lack of these evidentiary requirements gives Israel credits to generate plausible arguments against all the charges. When Israel forces destroy a building in which Palestinian families are killed, they will claim that no war crime was committed because the building was a "military target". As the UN debates about the convention show, people understood that “military necessity” allows states in theory to kill as many civilians as you would in a genocide. This is the “loophole” in international humanitarian law or in the laws and customs of war.

It doesn't matter what the word means. It's not even revenge. It's the senseless madness of people who have learned nothing from their history. When you hit children, hospitals and humanitarian workers... it means you are not a human being. You are a beast. But the blood of innocents will be a curse for you

It doesn't matter what the word means. It's not even revenge. It's the senseless madness of people who have learned nothing from their history. When you hit children, hospitals and humanitarian workers... it means you are not a human being. You are a beast. But the blood of innocents will be a curse for you

Are you referring to the terrorists hiding within schools/hospitals? 🤔️

oh yes, the poor palestinians....do you know, how these peoples have destroy the social peace in Germany??? - I am not interested in the Near-East conflict and every palestian, who don't like Germany can go home to his country! I am fed up with Muslims allways feeling like they are victims. If you want your Califat, if you want your Sharia, pls...in your countries! And Yassir Arafat was a terrorist!

And looking at Ruanda, former Belgian colony, I advice you to read the book "Handshake with the devil" written by the Canadian officer Romeo Dallaire, who was one of the chiefs of the so called "Peace troops" during the massacres at Kingali! He was so traumasited, that he tried suicide! - So, pls! The days of april 1994 in Ruanda are much different to the 7. October 2024, where thousand of Palestian terrorist slaughered innocent people in Israel! Im fed up with the Islam and his violence in the name of Palestine!!! en, hoi, Fleurke, ben je de moordaanslag van Brussel van 2016 al vergeten of staan je aan de kant van deze beesten? Poor Belgium!!!

Editado por Piwipete .

@Pennarossa2024,, @NILU1234, @Etienne, @Simone724, @mayuuram, @Sarahsalah27, @Esma-Nur, @Annika2007, @Emmiiii_17_11, @Miss_Penpal, @Sabri_KC, @elizabethtay836, @martutuni, @Roseeeee, @-Kiki-, @Txya, @Lianshen, @LandRoverDiscovery2 @Yue_why dont all countries help while there is a genocide going on in palestine. so many years ago the same thing happened when there was a genocide going on between hutsi and tutsi. i really dont understand how world leaders and humanity can allow this. shame on you world really shame on you.i will never forgot this because i was a little child and i cried everynight when this happend and now it happens again ......Rwandan genocide

1994 genocide in Rwanda

The Rwandan genocide was a genocide that took place in 1994 in the African country of Rwanda. During this genocide, an estimated 500,000 to 1 million[1] Tutsis (approximately 70% of the total population) and moderate Hutus were murdered over a period of 100 days, from April 7 to July 15, 1994. Most of the killings were committed by two Hutu militias, the Interahamwe, a youth militia of the ruling MRND party, and the Impuzamugambi of the extremist The international peacekeeping force stationed in the region, UNAMIR, did not intervene due to its limited mandate. This has drawn much criticism from the United Nations and especially from members of the Security Council. The genocide was stopped by the Tutsi rebel movement known as the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF), led by Paul Kagame. After the RPF's victory, Kagame became vice president and minister of defense. He has been president of Rwanda since 2000.



Excuse me, whole Europe has recognized what will happen, when a country is too much human friend. Half Europe still is angry about Germany because of 2015 and refugees. The pull effect is still real.

Are you referring to the terrorists hiding within schools/hospitals? 🤔️

terrorists but also Mr. nethanyahu. He is not a terrorist but the head of a government of a democratic country. Yet he is responsible for the death of many innocent people. Can I say these things about Penpal Gate?

There is no genocide going on in Palestine! The population is growing! I advice you reading the book "Vergesst Auschwitz"" written by the great Henry M. Broder, one of the best german intellectuals!

I am fed up with Muslims allways feeling like they are victims. If you want your Califat, if you want your Sharia, pls...in your countries! And Yassir Arafat was a terrorist!

When did we mention Shariaa or the Caliphate here ?? Sorry to say, but it seems you are the one to hang generalized stigmas on the Muslim population in Europe and on here.

The days of april 1994 in Ruanda are much different to the 7. October 2024, where thousand of Palestian terrorist slaughered innocent people in Israel!

What happened on October 7th clearly has no justification. These were cruel acts that were committed by Hamas members. However, it has an EXPLANATION, and factors that explains why it happened. Again, I am NOT defending what they did. These are two different things. Innocent people in Palestine are also daily persecuted by the Zionist regime in a lot of domains, and that since 1948. Now where is the condemnation of the incessant occupation of innocent Palestinian civilians ?

Im fed up with the Islam and his violence in the name of Palestine!!! en, hoi, Fleurke, ben je de moordaanslag van Brussel van 2016 al vergeten of staan je aan de kant van deze beesten? Poor Belgium!!!

May I know why you generalize to our whole religion ?? There are Muslims who didn’t hurt anyone in Europe, and who even condemn the terrorist attacks, but still pay for the hatred as well. You're adding fuel to the fire...

There is no genocide going on in Palestine! The population is growing! I advice you reading the book "Vergesst Auschwitz"" written by the great Henry M. Broder, one of the best german intellectuals!

Oh for sure ! the population in Gaza is growing after the murder of the 67k++ civilians, that’s clear ! There is a genocide… An ethnic cleansing right in front of our eyes, and some people don’t realize it.

May I know why you generalize to our whole religion ?? There are Muslims who didn’t hurt anyone in Europe, and who even condemn the terrorist attacks, but still pay for the hatred as well. - Oh,... who even condemn the terrorist attacks,,,,WHERE!? I have never heard of a public voice of Muslims that stay with the EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS, where there have been again a Muslim terror to the people in EUROPE! BATACLAN...where have been the Muslim SORRY??? BRUSSEL...where have been the muslim SORRY? Charlie Hebbdo? Where been the muslin SORRY? ....Where?...But, when you critizes the "hooly" Islam...oh your Oriental guests in Europe are on the barricades with all there antisemitism, anti-christianism and anti-democratism! Sorry, Muslimes, if you want an islamic state; Afghanistan or Pakistan would be nice...I prefere to live in Europe in peace!

Editado por Piwipete .

Oh, the basic argument "If you don't condemn them, then you are with them"…

You’re not gonna make ALL Muslims in Europe apologize for one person… Imagine if each community had to apologize because one of them did something bad in your country ?

(There were various imams in France who condemned the terrorist attacks of 2015 in France anyway, if that can reassure you)

I see you keep pretending that Muslims in Europe want to establish a "tyrannical" regime in Europe when most of them are just normal civilians who just want to practice their religion, but instead are demonized by far-right parties, who are the real anti-Semites and anti-democratic and try to shift their accusations onto other people...

Whatever you say, to me as a Muslim, Europe is my HOME as much as the country of my parents! 🙂

Terrorists are criminals. But can the government of a democratic state kill children, bomb hospitals, attack humanitarian organizations and even Unifil? In Israel hundreds of people are demonstrating against Netanyahu. My heart goes out to them. I hope that Israel will have a different head of government, not corrupt and peace-loving. My grandfather was deported to a German concentration camp. My great-grandparents died after German soldiers burned down their house. I do not forget these things but I do not hate all Germans. And I think it is very wrong to hate all Muslims in the world. Piwipete should study the history of Germany.