The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.The Chinese government can be said to be indifferent to life
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The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.Do you think there is a possibility that the Universal value of the West are not universal, the Chinese people have suffered a lot (during the Republic of China), and do not think that freedom in the Western model is freedom
The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.And in fact, NATO member states are waging wars everywhere, endangering the world. Ukraine's failure to enter NATO is not because NATO avoids provoking Russia, but because Russia interrupted the Western plan to let Ukraine enter NATO to invade Russia. The unipolar hegemonic thinking of the Western world is clear to people all over the world, and China, Russia, Iran, and other countries are all countries deeply endangered by the Western world
而且事实上，北约的成员国四处发动战争，危害这个世界，乌克兰没有进入北约并不是因为北约避免惹怒俄罗斯，而是俄罗斯打断了西方让乌克兰进入北约以侵略俄罗斯的计划图，西方世界的单极霸权思维全世界人民看的很清楚，中国、俄罗斯、伊朗以及其它国家都是深受西方世界危害的国家
The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.The Chinese people will never forget the blood debt that NATO owes us! The cancer of humanity, NATO, will surely perish in the attack of people around the world!
中国人民永远不会忘记北约欠我们的血债！人类的毒瘤北约必将在全世界人民的攻势中灭亡！
The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.但是你要知道，并非中国和俄罗斯政府是这样，全世界的政府都是这样。因为现在没有一个是真正在实现共产主义的政府。如果你认为中国是共产主义国家那就错了。毛泽东建立的是社会主义国家，但是被邓小平改回去了。我们暂时失败了。而且法国的大型罢工也说明了政府开始无法满足工人的福利需求。总之，全世界的无产者联合起来！
They are not endangered anymore, because the war clearly showed that the world is at least divided in two distinct sides nowadays, just like 30 years 40 years ago. What is sad is that the US is sacrifying EU with the wishful hjope to keep an hegemony it can't sustain, and that we, in Europe, follow it like puppets, isolating ourselves from the world and the industrial centers instead of working for ourselves. In case of France,it's even worse, we had all interests to side with Russia and China a while ago to keep a good balance of powers and a good country. Instead, we are becoming a shithole and wars occurs, killing Ukrainians now, Taiwaneses soon.The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.And in fact, NATO member states are waging wars everywhere, endangering the world. Ukraine's failure to enter NATO is not because NATO avoids provoking Russia, but because Russia interrupted the Western plan to let Ukraine enter NATO to invade Russia. The unipolar hegemonic thinking of the Western world is clear to people all over the world, and China, Russia, Iran, and other countries are all countries deeply endangered by the Western world
而且事实上，北约的成员国四处发动战争，危害这个世界，乌克兰没有进入北约并不是因为北约避免惹怒俄罗斯，而是俄罗斯打断了西方让乌克兰进入北约以侵略俄罗斯的计划图，西方世界的单极霸权思维全世界人民看的很清楚，中国、俄罗斯、伊朗以及其它国家都是深受西方世界危害的国家
是的，战争是美国政府维护统治的工具，这是一场骗局，欺骗的是中国的，台湾的，乌克兰的，欧洲的人民They are not endangered anymore, because the war clearly showed that the world is at least divided in two distinct sides nowadays, just like 30 years 40 years ago. What is sad is that the US is sacrifying EU with the wishful hjope to keep an hegemony it can't sustain, and that we, in Europe, follow it like puppets, isolating ourselves from the world and the industrial centers instead of working for ourselves. In case of France,it's even worse, we had all interests to side with Russia and China a while ago to keep a good balance of powers and a good country. Instead, we are becoming a shithole and wars occurs, killing Ukrainians now, Taiwaneses soon.The adhesion to NATO is always the same wrong argument to invade Ukraine. In reality NATO always refused to integrate Ukraine to avoid Putin’s anger. The first reason of this invasion is that this dictator couldn’t bear a democracy so close to him. That could give ideas of liberty to his own people. It’s exactly like for China with Taiwan. It’s a very bad example this free island near a country leads by a communist regime. I absolutely agree with you AttaFromChina: The interests of the country should be represented by the people and it’s not the case in Russia or China.And in fact, NATO member states are waging wars everywhere, endangering the world. Ukraine's failure to enter NATO is not because NATO avoids provoking Russia, but because Russia interrupted the Western plan to let Ukraine enter NATO to invade Russia. The unipolar hegemonic thinking of the Western world is clear to people all over the world, and China, Russia, Iran, and other countries are all countries deeply endangered by the Western world
而且事实上，北约的成员国四处发动战争，危害这个世界，乌克兰没有进入北约并不是因为北约避免惹怒俄罗斯，而是俄罗斯打断了西方让乌克兰进入北约以侵略俄罗斯的计划图，西方世界的单极霸权思维全世界人民看的很清楚，中国、俄罗斯、伊朗以及其它国家都是深受西方世界危害的国家
BREAKING ////// WAGNER GROUP LEADER PRIGOZHIN WARNS MOSCOW. THE CREMLIN ON HIGH ALERT AND ISSUES ARREST WARRENT FOR PRIGOZHIN.
I’m impressed by this very powerful demonstration of propaganda of our Chinese friend. Yet it’s not in repeating how innocent countries like Russia, China or Iran are victims of the cruel and corrupted occident that push them to murderous actions that you could convince somebody well informed. These three countries are the champions of capital punishment and censorship, their leaders represent certainly not the people.
Thus there are other values than those of Western countries? May be the right to shut up or being jailed or killed in case of disagreement like in these three countries Don’t lie ARGHD the first killer of Chinese people was the communist government itself not the NATO. And you Lianshen, do you realize in the shit we would be if we let Putin winning in Ukraine? If you are really a French you spit on our national values that effectively are very occidental.
Time will speak , Wait a little, you can see what’s happening actually in Russia. Yet Prigozhin can’t be suspected to be helped by NATO.
BREAKING //// RUSSIA IN THE BALANCE, FORMER WORLD SUPERPOWER FACES IT'S WORST CRISIS YET
ПОСЛЕДНИЕ //// РОССИЯ В БАЛАНСЕ, БЫВШАЯ МИРОВАЯ СВЕРХДЕРЖАВА СТОЛКНУЛАСЬ С САМЫМ СИЛЬНЫМ КРИЗИСОМ
Amazing. A few "men" playing global chess, flirting with nukes, and 7 billion people who don't want war just watch. We're even stupid enough to take sides and provide idiotic youtube links to "prove" points. Come on, man, if we want to survive, maybe war should be a thing of the past. Where are the citizens, the Europeans, the Americans, the Russians, saying "You make wars, you're out!"? Aren't these leaders our paid servants?
Yes the leaders are supposed to be the servants of their people and are paid for that. It’s not exactly the case of Putin who steals his own country, possess the first fortune of the world and brandishes the nuclear threat when he doesn't get the results he hoped.
You're focusing on Putin. What about USA's leaders and planners? Putin is responding to beligerents on his doorstep. What would USA do if Russia had nukes in Cuba? Oh, right. We already know.
The USA leaders can be replaced and even have problems with justice. Putin must be assassinated to be forced out the Kremlin. This dictator follows mad dreams of "Big Russia" and don't care about the wellbeing of the people. Europe already has Russian nuclear weapon in the middle of its territory and never made a "special operation" to avoid that.
This dictator follows mad dreams of "Big Russia" and don't care about the wellbeing of the people...That is just a claim you are making. Let's use evidence. This invasion is not expansionist, but a direct response to NATO moving eastward to Russia's border. This was illegal, but provoked. Russia's security concerns were being ignored. Putin has said for decades that Ukraine is a red line. Many, many in the West have said NATO (not a defensive organization) expanding eastward would prompt a reaction from Russia the same way USA reacted when Soviet missiles were placed in Cuba. See the signatures on open letter to Clinton in the source I provide. (source: https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion)
Anil, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to show that you are against all offences commited by any country, right? Otherwise we will think you are just propagandized against China.
Anil, also, to show you are informed, please tell us some good things about China. Otherwise we will think you are just propagandized and reading only negative stuff. Thanks.
I'll help you get started:
You are from France. Tell us how terrible France (you display a French flag) is for all those terrible things it did and still does in Africa.
If you care about coutries doing bad things, why pick on China? The list is very, very short there. Start with USA, move on to France, etc. Show us you have a balanced and realistic view of the world.
Anil, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to show that you are against all offences commited by any country, right? Otherwise we will think you are just propagandized against China.Good morning to everyone one here and I really hope that everything is all right for you whoever you are ! Well, as some customers of this political forum who are used to read my posts specially on this topic know, I am a a very small business executive of Renault or Reno ( for Russian and Ukrainian people ) french car maker and my society is producing in Shanghai China in association with chinese car maker Dongfeng ( a chinese state society ), the Dacia Spring which is one the most sold electric car in EU with Tesla 3 and Fiat 500 and I really thank chinese government and central and local direction of chinese communist Party for its financial and logistic support .Anil, also, to show you are informed, please tell us some good things about China. Otherwise we will think you are just propagandized and reading only negative stuff. Thanks.
I'll help you get started:
You are from France. Tell us how terrible France (you display a French flag) is for all those terrible things it did and still does in Africa.
If you care about coutries doing bad things, why pick on China? The list is very, very short there. Start with USA, move on to France, etc. Show us you have a balanced and realistic view of the world.