So, Lianshen, do you really think that China is a threat to Western civilization? Why? Because the nation is in a good shape? It's a war between Est and West. Interests! What is now at stake. Did you realise that West is not talking about human rights? Why? What happened to the West? I can explain, interests. And nobody is talking now about human rights. If we will start to talk about human rights, the West is going be so vulnerable.
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Why Russia is taking Donbass? Why not? I told you Lianshen, it's a matter of security. You didn't listen then, listen now. It's a matter of surviving! As a nation, as an independent country.
Times of talking are in the past. Now is the question how we can all can get out of this mess?
Why Russia is taking Donbass? Why not? I told you Lianshen, it's a matter of security. You didn't listen then, listen now. It's a matter of surviving! As a nation, as an independent country.Then it's abnsolutely not to fight the Nazis like you previously said.Even you don't believe this narrative set as casus belli.
Lianshen is the top!
I hate it when my thoughts slip or maybe I'd have something to contribute.
But my memory seems to be in decline.
Good morning to everyone here ! It was very interesting yesterday to have a look on the great subversive show and demonstration made by two very old customers of this political forum and whose message to defend and spread Russian s government propaganda on this topic , really seemed to be written by Fsb officers ( russian secret services ) or members from russian private offices controlled by putin s oligarchs
The second goal for the very strong activity of these people seems on my mind also, to put this political forum always on the top of the penpal s forum so as to give them the best opportunity of being their propaganda read and on the same time eclipsing and hiding other poltical forums which do not support their political vision of the current conflict in Ukraina
The second goal for the very strong activity of these people seems on my mind also, to put this political forum always on the top of the penpal s forum so as to give them the best opportunity of being their propaganda read and on the same time eclipsing and hiding other poltical forums which do not support their political vision of the current conflict in UkrainaAgain being offtopic in additionto be a perfect joke. Remember how many posts you made on the last page? 8/18, with all of them being at least double post ((which is against a basic rule on most of forums) where you were monologuing and offtopic. The hypocrisy is palpable.
Better let you dream alone though.
I'm keeping these forums on top as well with the West's alternative views. The other side to the coin. Maybe some fear and defensiveness can subside in some and they can be mellowed to put up with seeing us all as the same children. I can say that one of my biggest fears is the behavoural term "Gaslighting," and I help myself by meeting people on these forums! Sometimes I read online comments and they scare me when the world wants to swallow me whole and everything right in it. Being born and raised in the US, I naturally will be a hard head to convince otherwise of my country's rightful place in it's political view and I have no reason to take things that don't make sense to me. Not until I have enough reason to believe it. I've been shunned by fanatics of the other world view on this site and they have been an example of how a belief can be all they can hold dear to when they need comfort and what it means to me to stand up anyway for politics.
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Lianshen, I write it to you because it might be interesting to the others. Remember, you said - taking Donbass by Russia would be some kind of NAZI tactic? OK, but what was Jugoslavia, Iraq, Libia, Syria? Wasn't it also NAZI tactic? So, we can say that it's so many countries who using NAZI tactic? Another thing, can you explaine to me why the USA troops are still in Syria? Does it complys with any international law? Or we are talking now about something else like new rulles? Anybody read this rules? I don't. You know, when you playing chess, you can play for whites or blacks. Can I still say the word BLACKS? So, you cant change the rule of play during the game. Otherwise partner might stop playing with you in chess. What else? You know, West is talking too much about Uygurs or what do you call these people in China. So, Is West is trying to give them independancy? On what grounds? On what grounds Kosovo was given independency? Why UN doesn't recognise Donbass? Because there live subhumans? What is a big deal about casuelties in Ukraine now? I told here many times, thausend of people in Donbas were killed during these 8 years. Nobody cared! West doesn't want to see the other way. Unfortunately, there were no other way, but to start this military operation. Because things look ridiculous.
And, Lianshen, briefly about your point about casus belli. There are many evidance about NAZY and their tactic in Ukraine. There are nor NAZY on the territiries "occupied" by Russians. Denazification is going on. So, it's a matter of wording. In addition to that, diplomats have own reasons. I don't know why Ukraine did not declaire war to Russia? But everybody calls it a war! You see, how many strange things? And I know why. Because we don't know what kind of game we are all playing?
Remember, you said - taking Donbass by Russia would be some kind of NAZI tactic?Never said that, You are making up things now.
OK, but what was Jugoslavia, Iraq, Libia, Syria? Wasn't it also NAZI tactic? So, we can say that it's so many countries who using NAZI tactic?No.
Another thing, can you explaine to me why the USA troops are still in Syria? Does it complys with any international law?As far as I know, russian troops also still are in Syria.
I don't know what you are trying to express through your posts, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying. Telling "West bad" doesn't mean that Russia is much better, y'know, and yelling nazi all the time make the word losing all its meaning.
And, Lianshen, briefly about your point about casus belli. There are many evidance about NAZY and their tactic in Ukraine. There are nor NAZY on the territiries "occupied" by Russians. Denazification is going on.Yes, admitting this is true (which is probably not); is it the real reason behind annexation of Donbass? Like you said, even you don't believe it, so why do you try to push this story so much?
I don't know why Ukraine did not declaire war to Russia? But everybody calls it a war!Maybe because they couldn't and are now fighting Russia not with their own forces, but witht he western block supporting them? Because fights have been initiated by Russia? If Russia refuse to call a cat a cat, it doesn't suddenly become a dog.
You criticize Billa,but you are not so far from him in the end. You answer to people without responding to them, but you talk alone, you double post, you get into offtopic... This thread was disappointing from the begining, but the more it goes, the more everybody gets dogmatic here.
Ok, Lianshen, I give up. You are missing the point. Like many Westeners. How else I can call them? Like it or not, but we are still East and West. You can't put away mentality. And this situation with Ukraine is a proof. Same thing has happened 68 years ago, Caribia crises. There were no Zelensky, no any questions about Ukraine. But the problem is still there! Mentality didn't change. So, what we are discussing here, it's not something new.
