The truth and lies of Ukraine

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We get the Crimean Bridge. Soon 19 km scrap!!! Slava Ukraine!!!

Ok, Lianshen, I give up. You are missing the point. Like many Westeners. How else I can call them? Like it or not, but we are still East and West. You can't put away mentality. And this situation with Ukraine is a proof.
Missing the point in avoiding calling nazi all and everything? You don't even define what is a nazi tactic. Is it a Blitzkrieg? Ukraine or Westerners didn't do it. Is it a massive deportation of Jewish people? Well, nobody is doing this at the moment. Is it a discrimination of disabled, homosexual, and some minorities? As far as I'm concerned, then Russia could enter this last box for how homophobic it's depicted in the West.
If it's nothinglike above, then I fail to see what is a "nazi tactic", but it sure is easier to claim "it's NAZIIIIIIS" and then saying "you miss the point, you wrong, you nazi" to someone contradicting you. Ironically, this is a very commonly used strateggy in Western countries by some people with a certain ideology.

Same thing has happened 68 years ago, Caribia crises. There were no Zelensky, no any questions about Ukraine. But the problem is still there! Mentality didn't change. So, what we are discussing here, it's not something new.
Caribia crisis? What are you talking about? Cuba? It was in 62 and a threat to US's sovereignety just like some systems in Eastern Europe are for Russia nowadays.
Or maybe Guatemala? It was another context, and what's the point to bring this up here? Saying "US bad?" Yes, the US is a country full of shit, imperialist like hell and trying to opress whoever disagrees, but being the opponent of a crappy country doesn't mean that your side is angelic. Most of people here, you like others fail to understand it. Your both side are full of shit and the world sure isn't as manicheist as one would love to believe.

Destroy the fucking Crimean Bridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyzLEg87j2k

"Caribia" Korea?

Good night to everyone ! Yesterday the United Nations Office against sexual violence in conflict led by under secretary Pramila Patten from Mauritius, published a report after having investigated for several months thousands cases of Ukrainian civilians, saying that it was absolutely obvious that Russian government used massively rape weapon as a global military strategy in its conflict with Ukraina : all the victims questioned were between 4 and 82 years old and they belonged to all kind of sex classes from women, teenage girls, old people until men, teenage boys, small girls and boys !
Sincerely , I m not really surprised : Russian President Putin and Mr Alexander Bortnikov, the director of the FSB , the russian secret services, are using the same kind of terror policy against Ukrainian people as Stalin and Lavrenti Beria, the chief of Nkvd ( the ancestor of Kgb and Fsb ) in 1945 against german civilians ( 3.5 millionth of german women and teenage girls from 12 until 62 years old raped by soviet soldiers at that time ! )
Like in 1945, many cases of collective rapes with until 15 fifteen russians soldiers insolved were reported and even on small boys and girls or very old people ! The massive use of viagra was also noticed to russian soldiers : sure you really need such a thing and also coming from russian jail and psychiatric hospital so as to be able to rape in gathering a 4 years old child or their 82 grandmother !
I ask me what will be the next scale of such a military strategy from russian government for its next invasion of a sovereign country : animals massive collective rape like cats, dogs, horses or pigs ! The royal City for animal protection will appreciate very much !

Sorry i meant the royal society for animal protection against cruelty ( they will maybe nearly add and against russian government cruelty, we would really need the same kind of organisation against this one for human beings ! )

Shameful! I know that Russian soldiers lack discipline and cleanliness when the Ukrainian homes they leave behind are found made into pigpins! They need to be castrated like they do to the Ukrainan soldiers!

Oct 14. "Yurii Kerpatenko, principal conductor at the Kherson Music and Drama Theatre, has been killed by Russian occupiers in Kherson.

The ministry said Yurii Kerpatenko had been shot dead by the Russian military in his own home after he refused to cooperate with the invaders."

You see, Lianshen? Is it adequate reply - brake 19 kilometers bridge? How we can communicate, if politicians are not talking with each other? Can you imaging that President Kennedy would say that he is not going to meet with Chruschev? Why? Just don't feel like it. That's it! I don't wanna meet anybody! Again, what are we talking about, if we don't have international law, nor rules? How we are going communicate, if we understand all things differently? At the same time we are saying that somebody broke the rules! What kind of rules are we talking now? What's more, politicians are not better than people here. It's amazing! When a gynecologist is giving suggestions how to survive coming winter! And she is smiling kindly! I don't know anymore what we are talking about.

Good afternoon to everyone! I m sure now that a majority of russian people support Putin s and Russia United plans concerning Ukrainians people or are absolutely undifferent to what their governmemt and army are doing there ! I got the feeling to live again at the present time what my father used to see and feel when he was in nazi Germany during Ww2 when most of germans were fanatized and followed blindly nazi s propaganda until bombs start to fell on their heads : even here when you read the comments of some russian persons, you can feel the very deshumanized manner they talk about Ukranian people so as to explain to us why they want and need to destroy their nation, identity and culture and that s really frightening ! As former general and US president Dwight David Ike Eisenhower said about nazis germans : if you don t know why you are fighting for, at least you can see against what !

I forgot to say that those glorious members of the new russian millenium fourth reich want to destroy ukrainian language too !

As polish prime minister Mazowieki said a few month before about Putin : you don t talk or negociate with Hitler, you fight him !

Billa, wasn't it you who was talking about rats? Remember what was Gebels, the NAZY minister saying? "We have to lie. There won't be too much lie. It has to go out every radio spot, every newspaper. Most people can't take a lie from the truth". So, you are very skillful in this business.

Billa, wasn't it you who was talking about rats? Remember what was Gebels, the NAZY minister saying? "We have to lie. There won't be too much lie. It has to go out every radio spot, every newspaper. Most people can't take a lie from the truth". So, you are very skillful in this business.

You are also very... Well. Not skillful, but you are trying, and you are practicing Goebbels proffesion very intensive.

You see, Lianshen? Is it adequate reply - brake 19 kilometers bridge? How we can communicate, if politicians are not talking with each other? Can you imaging that President Kennedy would say that he is not going to meet with Chruschev? Why? Just don't feel like it. That's it! I don't wanna meet anybody! Again, what are we talking about, if we don't have international law, nor rules? How we are going communicate, if we understand all things differently? At the same time we are saying that somebody broke the rules! What kind of rules are we talking now?
Why do you ask me this? Do you want me to say that those people getting happy over the destruction of a bridge, the death of "ennemies" or the "liberation" of some lands they have no idea about are nothing but fanatics just to reassure you? Well,, yes, they are fanatics, dogmatics, one would say nuts, but does it makes your discourse more listenable? You don't come with news of a destroyed bridge, but you showed some support for the death of people as well, in a more tempered way maybe, or a more sneaky.

You forget that your country, too, plays with international rules, just like everybody. The real rule ahs always been the rules of the strongest down here. No need to whine because others do what your country also does, or would love to.

What's more, politicians are not better than people here.
Sure, they are worse, the scum of one country usually (at least in the West and Africa, but surely everywhere); but they can make people supporting stupid ideas.


Billa, wasn't it you who was talking about rats? Remember what was Gebels, the NAZY minister saying? "We have to lie. There won't be too much lie. It has to go out every radio spot, every newspaper. Most people can't take a lie from the truth". So, you are very skillful in this business.
See, that's exactly what I meant . You only have this answer "nazi, nazi, nazi", making ad hitlerum almost all the time by now, which is very similar to what leftists are doing when someone contradict them.


Good afternoon to everyone! I m sure now that a majority of russian people support Putin s and Russia United plans concerning Ukrainians people or are absolutely undifferent to what their governmemt and army are doing there ! I got the feeling to live again at the present time what my father used to see and feel when he was in nazi Germany during Ww2 when most of germans were fanatized and followed blindly nazi s propaganda until bombs start to fell on their heads : even here when you read the comments of some russian persons, you can feel the very deshumanized manner they talk about Ukranian people so as to explain to us why they want and need to destroy their nation, identity and culture and that s really frightening ! As former general and US president Dwight David Ike Eisenhower said about nazis germans : if you don t know why you are fighting for, at least you can see against what !
Larping again. This is not D&D forums here.

Good evening to everyone ! Some people here in their lasts posts reveal me their real origins and identities and I m really thanking them for recognizing me as their equal ! Even if Joseph Goebbels, the former propaganda minister of german third reich was very strong in this kind of human activity, I feel more or I m doing my best to be a pupil of Reinhard Gehlen, the former chief of Abwehr ( german army secret services ) on eastern front during Ww2, the real creator of Vlassov army, the liberation russian army which fought Soviet Red army during Ww2 too. Reinhard Gehlen used to be one of the rare survivors of Walkyrie plan ( the plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in.1944 ) and he used to be the only western support of Stepan Bandera, the former chief of Ukrainian nationalists from 1942 until 1954 in his fight against Soviet Union.Reinhard Gehlen used to be also a member of Oss organisation from 1945 to 1947 ( the ancestor of American CIA ) and he was at last the creator of the bnd
( western german secret services ).

AXIS and ALLIES: Reinhard Gehlen ( German Resistance ) / Dark Academia: EUROPEAN HISTORY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3YG-_rYYk