Chaos, I can't imaging situation when employer would ask anybody hiring a person for a job - are you gay? Will it be comfortable for you to work in a heterosexual environment here? It's impossible. If employer asks such questions he can be liable for such questions. So, I don't see here any problem. Give me some examples where gay people are deprived of their rights? You say that some gay people even killed. Well, there are much more heterosexuals are killed every day. Do I want to know if they are killed by gay people? Don't you see that it's nonsense. To kill somebody is a crime! Period. What it has to do with sex? If we'll use your logic then we have to build extra restrooms for transgenders, man to woman person, woman to man etc. It's crazy. Why do we need all these problems? Or, maybe you want to have different restrooms for blacks and whites, like it used to be? Excuse me, but we'll make a mess if we continue to use such logic. Talking about girls and boys I meant that some teachers are trying manipulate boys and girls. A child is like a clear page, what you write on this page, it will be in a child's head. So, we all have to be careful what we are teaching children. And suggesting to a boy that he can be a girl it's a crime. Suggesting to a child to change sex it's crime too.
Opinion: Homophobia. Politics and governments
You say that some gay people even killed. Well, there are much more heterosexuals are killed every day. Do I want to know if they are killed by gay people?There are such things called "hate crimes" and, as far as I understand, they mean that the victim was attacked by their perpetrator because they hated something about the victim (=e.g. religion, gender, sexuality, nationality, skin colour).
Hate crimes against LGBTQIA+ people exist. You can see that here for example.
That doesn't mean that everyone attacking LGBTQIA+ people, has to hate LGBTQIA+ and that's why they attacked the victim. Maybe they just hate the victim or were in a funny mood and felt like attacking some random person. There doesn't have to be a causal connection between the assault and the gender or sexuality of the victim, it might just he a gay victim by accident and the point of the assult was their hair colour.
But hate crimes against LGBTQIA+ (including gay) people because of LGBTQIA+ -phobia also exist. Don't pretend they don't or aren't a problem.
The difference to hate crimes against non-LGBTQIA+ people is that they usually get attacked for other reasons than their sexuality and gender identity. The article I linked includes this table which concludes that 84.7% of hate crimes against LGBTQIA+ people were because of their gender or sexuality.
For non-LGBTQIA+ people it was 25%, 23.6% of which were because of gender, which might just be people who are misogynistic or misandristicunrelated to the victims not being queer. This is my assumption though.
"Gay people attacking heterosexual people" doesn't equal "gay people attacking heterosexual people because they are heterosexual" and the "because they are heterosexual" is the whole entire point of what I meant when I said "while people are getting murdered for being gay". For being gay means the reason for the crime was homophobia. They weren't attacked and also gay, they were attacked because they're gay. There's a causal connection.
Implying that LGBTQIA+ related hate crimes don't exist because non-LGBTQIA+ people also get attacked by gay people is simply ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever.
The important part is why the crime was committed and not who committed it.
But obviously most people who commit LGBTQIA+ -phobic hate crimes wouldn't identify as LGBTQIA+ because otherwise they hopefully wouldn't hate these people and themselves.
Also, this will have been the last time at I'll argue with you about this. So please don't think you convinced me or rendered me speechless when I don't respond next time, I simply do not have the energy to keep explaining these things to you.
Yes, Chaos, there are hate crimes. I never said that something like that is good. There are hate crimes against Jews, Russians, Blacks, Gays etc. Do we have to put the crimes against Gays in some kind of a separate box? Yes, for the criminal investigation, yes, but otherwise not. It's a hate crime. What are all the gay parades are signify for us? Gay pride? Or, if we see this gay parades there will be a less crime against gay people? How about a heterosexual parade? We are heterosexuals and we are proud of it! Don't hate us! Doesn't it sounds ridiculous? The whole topic is strange. That's why I agree, there is no point to discuss it. And, as I understand it, the topic is broader than just gay subject.
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aint no way ppl are bringing pedophiles with gayness, if you're a pedo you're a pedo, if you're gay you're gay. one is a problem the other not really.
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But my two cents on the pedo thing is:
There’s straight pedos too, and someone being a gay pedo doesn’t change how creepy it is, both are just as bad. Someone being gay doesn’t make them a pedo XD ….
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Man! All facts...As a society we've been discussing the morality of being gay all throughout our history.Yes I'm a proud homophobe. I guess you should ask your question in a place where homosexuality is punished with death penalty, and not to people inwhich homophobia is more or less illegal and punished.Can any of you raise your hand and say "Yes, I'm a proud homophobe"?
I think homophobia is disgusting, like why would someone else’s sexuality bother you? ( I don’t mean you, I meant you as in a general term)Aren't pedophiles bothering you?
I believe that no one should be ostracised because of their gender orientation, race or faith. Everyone has the right to shape their own life and find the partner of their choice to be happy. I am not bothered by homosexuals or lesbians. They are all human beings.
You're right, society should show everyone that being yourself can't be a bad thing in any way and that you can love whoever you want because it's only YOUR choice!! There are A LOT of SUPER HARMFUL stereotypes here in Italy, a lot of mean comments and jokes are considered normal, and you're a complete loser if you're gay. Or even worse, if you're traaaans. Oh my god, what a scary word! Uuh! You're a loser even if you only support LGBTQ+! Like, can we just stop?? This is sooo toxic! People are AFRAID of being who they are or with whom they want to be! This oppressive and judgemental society is not what we want. We need a profund cultural change here. 😞Chaos, I didn't see here a single person who would say - gay people do not have the right go to school! Or something like that. What we are talking here about? What rights gay people are missing in Europe? Somebody suppress them? Are we talking about Iran, Iraq or what country we are talking about?I'm gonna start this off again by saying that I'm not informed about the rights of gay people anywhere. I know that in Germany homosexual people are only allowed to get married since 2017. Which might give you insight on how accepted they are in society and politics.What I do know is that they face discrimination and hate, and are victims of hate crimes.
They should be able to live their life in public without being verbally or physically assaulted for it.Also the LGBTQIA+ (including homosexuality) movement isn't just about rights but also about bringing the existence of these people to the public eye, showing that it's okay to be this way.
It's not just about rights but about being who you are without getting murdered for it.I don't even know what we're arguing about since you seem to agree with me on most points.
Leider hat es die AfD nicht geschafft die "Ehe für alle" rückgängig zu machen. Die CDU/CSU ist ja ein Totalausfall hier. Eigentlich wäre es die Aufgabe der CDU/CSU gewesen sich gegen die "Homo-Ehe" einzusetzen. Die Abstimmung ist zustandegekommen als die SPD in einer Großen Koalition als Juniorpartner die Union demütigte und unter Koalitionsbruch die Abstimmung erzwungen hat.