🤷‍♀️🧙‍♂️ True or false? 🙄❓

My daughter studies and we finance it with about 1000€ monthly. The fee of the university is only about 200 per semester but she has her own flat and needs food. She also works (home office) for a business related to her study. We don`t get money from the government but there is a veeery little amount we get by taxes. My husband and I just earn too much, but 1000€ is still pretty much for us. My son is 17 and still visits school. Two students would be very hard to finance.

That is a LOTTT of money!! 😯😯 I hope that it is enough if later I get from the government and maybe work in some evenings or perhaps in the weekend with a job. And we live close to Amsterdam so I can maybe stay at home so that is already a big difference. Because i dont think that my mom and dad can pay anything in the month and I dont want that too. But if we live together and they have jobs and I can maybe work too a bit that is easier. 🙂

My daughter studies and we finance it with about 1000€ monthly.

Unless I misunderstood, your daughter's schooling does not cost €1,000 a month contrary to what your first statement implies: her housing and groceries do. As per your explanation, it seems that education costs 200/3 = 67€ a month, which sounds very cheap to me

Of course if you happen to live far from the university you want to attend, you need to find accommodation which generates extra expenses. But I'm not sure I would factor it into the cost of education, just like you probably wouldn't factor rent/groceries into a job - you will have to sustain these expenses regardless

Recent research shows how, in Italy, the average fee for students enrolled in public universities fluctuates between €900 and €1000, while for private universities it reaches an average of €3408 for year. Instead, a master's degree at a public university costs on average €3543 for year.

But @Etienne there is also a difference I think. Because if you pay for a lot of things and you are in university you cant work a lot to pay everything. But if you have the same things that you have to pay but you are working like maybe 40 or 50 hours you can pay for everything easier. I spoke only with my mom and not with my dad yet. But she said I can work if i study later BUTTT not so much that the studies are less important. That is difficult because you have to pay so much. 🙁

There are so big differences between what you have to pay for the universities @Pennarossa2024 in Italy!! I dont know how much that is in The Netherlands. 🙄🙄

Today I did not post a new statement because a lot of people discuss now this topic in the forum. That is very nice so thank you everybody!! 🙏🙏 We have now like a mega discussion forum about the statements! 😛 That is really nice!! 😊😊🥰

Unless I misunderstood, your daughter's schooling does not cost €1,000 a month contrary to what your first statement implies: her housing and groceries do. As per your explanation, it seems that education costs 200/3 = 67€ a month, which sounds very cheap to me

I don't know if it's just a belief, but most things that come to my mind when I heard "finance" in France are private schools that are quite expensive too. Have you heard about university? Thus, for a semester, I think 200€ is not so expensive and, being in Gottingen, my fees are around the double. However, I wonder if the 200 fees also include benefits like rail pass and free bus use, because this was included in the fees I paid, and I can, apparently, take the regional train and bus for free.
Still 200€ per semester is the double than fees in France (243€/year for a master, potentially refundable).

Also, i think it's fair enough to say that her daughter schooling really cost 1000€ in the end. All additionnal costs is what makes studies unaffordable for many people. On my part, it is what made studies in Paris not doable at all.

Ps : it's a semester, so it's more like 33€/month.

Thank you everybody for writing what you think about the statements in this forum!! 🙏🙏 You can of course keep writing in this forum about the previous statements! 😛 But for the weekend I have this new statement:

➡️ Unless people made a choice before they die and unless their family has a different view, organs can be used for saving other peoples lives when persons die.

This statement I got online because a lot of people's lives can be saved if more organs are donated if people die. BUTTT i think that always the family or before they die the persons can decide if they want it or not.

What do you think about the statement? Do you think it is true ✅ or false ❌

Thank you and have a good weekend!! 😊😊🙋‍♀️

Hello Yue, thanks for the topic, my opinion is true because I believe that people can choose for themselves whether they have it done or not. In Belgium everyone is registered as a donor, but you can have this registered at the town hall if you specifically do not want to have that done. I look forward to your answer

Hello Yue, thanks for the topic, my opinion is true because I believe that people can choose for themselves whether they have it done or not. In Belgium everyone is registered as a donor, but you can have this registered at the town hall if you specifically do not want to have that done. I look forward to your answer

I agree on this point. In France we have the same system. Everyone is de facto a donor, but can ask to be registered as someone who doesn’t consent. Personally, if an organ can be given to someone who need it after one’s death (and who accepted), it can only be beneficial and it could be successful.

Thank you very much @Fleurke and @Sabri_KC!! I also want to be a donor but i want that family can also decide. So for example if someone dies it may be very hurting if the family does not want that. But it maybe is also because of a religion perhaps that people may not want it, but i am not sure if some religions are against it.

But if I can choose myself other persons can have my organs. But only when i have died they can get them! 😛

Thank you everybody for writing what you think about the statements in this forum!! 🙏🙏 You can of course keep writing in this forum about the previous statements! 😛 But for the weekend I have this new statement:

➡️ Unless people made a choice before they die and unless their family has a different view, organs can be used for saving other peoples lives when persons die.

This statement I got online because a lot of people's lives can be saved if more organs are donated if people die. BUTTT i think that always the family or before they die the persons can decide if they want it or not.

What do you think about the statement? Do you think it is true ✅ or false ❌

Thank you and have a good weekend!! 😊😊🙋‍♀️

When a person dies, the organs do too and they can't be used anymore. So when the organs are taken, the person isn't dead yet, and I think that's just horrible. So I'm completely against that statement.

When a person dies, the organs do too and they can't be used anymore. So when the organs are taken, the person isn't dead yet, and I think that's just horrible. So I'm completely against that statement.

Thank you for your reaction @Miss_Penpal!! 🙏🙏 But the organs can actually be used if somebody dies. BUTTTT only if they are used quickly for a transplantation. So there is not time for a lot of discussion about that. And there are now not enough donors and people who are very sick have to wait a LONGGG time for a donor and some dont get it in time. So it does save lives. BUTTT are there other reasons not to do it for example if the family is very hurt and they dont want it or because of religion. If they do agree and if it is in time after somebody does, it can save lives. So that is why i am FOR the statement, but only if the person is a donor and has agreed about it. Or the family has to give approval in my opinion. 😊😊

This is another hot topic!
In Germany, organs can only be donated by people who have previously consented to organ donation. These people have an identity card that confirms this. And the brain death of these donors must be confirmed by at least two doctors. In the case of brain death, breathing and the cardiovascular system are artificially maintained. If the machines were switched off, the organs would no longer work. The person therefore does not die as a result of the organ donation.
Whether you are in favour or against is a really difficult decision, which also depends on many other things...for example religion.
I haven't made up my own mind yet.

Thank you very much @mabah!! 🥰🥰 I think for us we dont have that identity card but it is in a register online that the hospitals can see. And you can register it there. And it is very good that you write that you haven't made up your mind yet. I think i want to register if my parents give permission for it. But it is also scary a bit the idea maybe. I hope that maybe this forum helps that you know what you want to decide!!

@Etienne, @Lianshen, @Simone724, @Pennarossa2024, @H_E_A_R_T what would you choose? Would you become a donor or do you prefer not to do that? Both choices are difficult I think but it is important topic for the forum I think. But not easy one!! 🙄🙄

Thank you very much @Fleurke and @Sabri_KC!! I also want to be a donor but i want that family can also decide. So for example if someone dies it may be very hurting if the family does not want that. But it maybe is also because of a religion perhaps that people may not want it, but i am not sure if some religions are against it.

But if I can choose myself other persons can have my organs. But only when i have died they can get them! 😛

Well in Islam it’s totally permissible to give organs or blood to people in need for them, as long as it doesn’t cause the donor’s death. For other religions I’m not sure though.

Thank you very much @mabah!! 🥰🥰 I think for us we dont have that identity card but it is in a register online that the hospitals can see. And you can register it there. And it is very good that you write that you haven't made up your mind yet. I think i want to register if my parents give permission for it. But it is also scary a bit the idea maybe. I hope that maybe this forum helps that you know what you want to decide!!

@Etienne, @Lianshen, @Simone724, @Pennarossa2024, @H_E_A_R_T what would you choose? Would you become a donor or do you prefer not to do that? Both choices are difficult I think but it is important topic for the forum I think. But not easy one!! 🙄🙄

This choice is not difficult to me, of course i'd like to be a donor, without any doubt! After i die, my corpse would be useless; instead, if some of my organs may help other people to feel better and heal from some disease, it would be great!

Sorry, i saw it right now! What do you mean by help?? Financial help??

Financial help

Thank you very much @Sabri_KC! I think maybe every religions will say it is good because you can save the life of others. So i expect it is for all religions. And @Simone724 I think that is very good what you said and I agree and also want that. But my parents have to also agree with that i think. But i dont know the register rules now. 🙄🙄

And also thank you @Parsaa for what you wrote. It is very sad i think if so many people from Iran leave. And I think they dont get back to Iran after they get their degree right? Because of what you said about the machines and the salary. Would you go to another country to study if you can later maybe? 🧑‍🎓🎓🎓

Today I did not make a new statement myself but it is from our society class so I copied it what we discussed about:

➡️ Because Trump is the new president in the US it is important that we help the EU to be stronger.

Our teacher in society class said that if you have a stronger EU than you are not so dependent on the US and countries cant do that alone so you have to cooperate.

What do you think about the statement? Do you think it is true ✅ or false ❌