If you didn't speak your native language, would you learn it as a second language ?

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Hi Sabri! 😊 Do you mean if you live in your native country or in another country?
Hello Yue ! Yes, just imagine if you were in another country, or if you lived a totally different life in a totally different place (like imagine you were born in Spain or in Italy, or India... I don't know haha ! It could even be your second country if you have one !

Sad trust is that France doesn't use its incredible cultural capital and its institution to spread French and French culture, but promote americanization more.
Yeah that's sad really. I think we reached a point in which the regional subdivisions of France do clearly not represent the Cultural diversity of France anymore. Since 2016 and even before, we have weird "regions", or what I would call "economical entities" that are just... Regions. No real cultural identity like Brittany or Corsica would have. Instead they chose to merge regions with somewhat distinctive cultures (like bro what is Nouvelle-Aquitaine ???? What is Grand-Est ? What have they done to Alsace ? How are the regions and cultural minorities supposed to defend their languages when French is rubbing and crushing out these languages ?) Lianshen, I think it's a really good idea that you learn some Breton if you wish too. You could maybe have an impact among the other Breton-speakers, and save your cultural heritage. Noz vat. (I learnt this word from you 😃)

I honestly didn't expect myself to talk a bit of politics here, but when you think about it, it's really linked. All countries and languages have effects on other languages.

and in our country, regional languages ​​within those regions are considered state languages, along with the Russian language
Yes, that's great ! Even though unfortunately those languages are experiencing a decrease since more people speak Russian. But I saw that Russia somehow tried to represent cultural minorities by giving them an Autonomous Republic (Tatarstan, Chuvashia, Dagestan, etc...) and each one has an official language along with russian, thus saving the culture. 🙂

and in our country, regional languages ​​within those regions are considered state languages, along with the Russian language
I'd prefer thisn but what has been done has been done and it's oto late to change things now. These years, some efforts are made to promote Breton with a standardized version and DIwan school (all of the teachings are done in Breton), but it's not spoken in daily life.
Not to be totally against France though, they did that so that everyone speaks the same language. Before that, communication between French and Breton was difficult, especially since Breton isn't even a romance language.

Yeah that's sad really. I think we reached a point in which the regional subdivisions of France do clearly not represent the Cultural diversity of France anymore. Since 2016 and even before, we have weird "regions", or what I would call "economical entities" that are just... Regions. No real cultural identity like Brittany or Corsica would have. Instead they chose to merge regions with somewhat distinctive cultures (like bro what is Nouvelle-Aquitaine ???? What is Grand-Est ? What have they done to Alsace ? How are the regions and cultural minorities supposed to defend their languages when French is rubbing and crushing out these languages ?) Lianshen, I think it's a really good idea that you learn some Breton if you wish too. You could maybe have an impact among the other Breton-speakers, and save your cultural heritage. Noz vat. (I learnt this word from you 😃)

I honestly didn't expect myself to talk a bit of politics here, but when you think about it, it's really linked. All countries and languages have effects on other languages.

Oh yes, this was really sad to see, especially since many people disagreed with it! InBrittany, they kept the "pays nantais" cut off from us despite historically belonging to Brittany (it was removed around the WW2).
I'm glad that you see the link between both, although I didn't expect you to go further either!

Devezh mat 😉

Edited by Lianshen .
All regional ones. Breton, Corsican, Basque, Alsacian, Occitan...
Corsican is an italian language

Corsican is an italian language
You can consider Corsican as an italian dialect if you want, but Corsica doesn't belong to Genoa anymore.

Corsican is a language or dialect of Italian origin. It has nothing to do with French. I know very well that Corsica belongs to France.

Corsican is a language or dialect of Italian origin. It has nothing to do with French. I know very well that Corsica belongs to France.
And? Breton is a Celtic language, Alsacian is a German language, Basque is not even Indo-European. The point is not about the origin of the language or even if it is a dialect or not. The point is that, in France, they are different languages from French.

And? Breton is a Celtic language, Alsacian is a German language, Basque is not even Indo-European. The point is not about the origin of the language or even if it is a dialect or not. The point is that, in France, they are different languages from French.
It Is a problem for France?

A person cannot but know any language. He must learn to communicate with people from a very early age. And fortunately, I know my native language well, although he is considered one of the most difficult in the world.

No, many people say it‘s hard and if you’re a complete foreigner it‘s propably hard to learn so no~

I think it depends on yourself. One day you feel you are interested in it, learn it. If you never feel want to learn it, just don't learn it. Haha.

Whether I will learn it as my second language depens on whether I can use it or not.

Absoulutely turkish is easy so yesss

Well, I don't speak the native language I am supposed to since it has been forbidden in the past in France and damage has been done now. I would like to give it a try in the future, though.

Else, for French, I would probably not learn it. Sad trust is that France doesn't use its incredible cultural capital and its institution to spread French and French culture, but promote americanization more.

Hi dear Mr Lianschen ! How are you ? So if I sum up what you wrote here, you were not able to learn your native language, I mean Breton and you would probably not learn french language in the future ! So my logical question dear Mr Lianschen is the following one : what is the language you are used to using for communicating with other people in normal life and outside Internet (.russkye, the Han language, parsi or korean maybe ?)🤣 And I also give you the same advice as Master Yoda to Luke Skywalker in the Empire s strike back movie : don t try , just do it or don t do it and if you really decide to shake your body to learn your so called native language , I can give you the adresses of 5 adults teaching Centers around the city of Gwened ( Vannes in french )

All regional ones. Breton, Corsican, Basque, Alsacian, Occitan...
If the use of such languages is forbidden and Banned in my country , who do you explain that but fortunately, you used to admit it further for the Diwan schools , that there are at the present time , 47 primary schools , 6 secondary and 2 high schools ( those schools are called diwans in Breton language or Breizhoneg if i good remember ) in Brittany where anyone whatever his origins are can study your native language and for free (.thoses schools are financed by brittonic associations , by the Britanny s region and by the french state because they are under contrat with the french teaching minister ).
In Northern part of Basque country ( Iparralde in basque language or Eskual Herria ) , there are 39 same schools which are called Ikastola

Oh yes, this was really sad to see, especially since many people disagreed with it! InBrittany, they kept the "pays nantais" cut off from us despite historically belonging to Brittany (it was removed around the WW2).
I'm glad that you see the link between both, although I didn't expect you to go further either!
I must recognize myself that the teaching policy of french republic from 1882 until the end of the sixties was wrong because under the Cover of Nationalism and the will to make unity against Germany after the lost war of 1870 1871 , French republic did not allow to his students of that time to learn their native languages at school and university
Devezh mat 😉

Oh yes, this was really sad to see, especially since many people disagreed with it! InBrittany, they kept the "pays nantais" cut off from us despite historically belonging to Brittany (it was removed around the WW2).
I'm glad that you see the link between both, although I didn't expect you to go further either!

Devezh mat 😉

Just a last thing dear Mr Lianschen, I find it a little bit strange for a person who pretends to be a breton that you did not even talk about the second native language spoken by people in Brittanny and in the district of Nantes or Loire Atlantique , I mean the Galo ! Galesian language or Galo is spoken by 197000 people in the Ile et Vilaine, Loire Atlantique and eatern parts of Morbihan and Cote d armor districts against 207000 people talking breton language or breizhoneg in the rest of Brittany .Galo is a roman language and it is the real native language of Armoric which is the real former name of Brittany !
Galo is a mixing between celtic, roman and Franc language or francique and that used to be the only spoken language with latin in Armoric until the coming from actual english Cornwall of Bretons populations, which used to migrate to Armoric between the third and sixth century after Jc. So ot makes me laugh a little bit when I m hearing some so called Bretons peoole who keep complaining about the invasion of their country by French and foreigners !🤣

If I correctly understand the topic, I wouldn.t learn Russian, if I wouldn.t speak it as native. I. T very Hard even for Russians🙂

No, I do not think so. The Italian language is useless all around the world.