I hope, parents will ask chil's permission, no matter at what age. I'm sure parents don't care much about their child's feelings. There's a mother on russian TikTok who films her daughter, insulting her style, figure, character, making fun of her on camera. And I'm so happy when I read the comments and see that the girl is supported, and her mother is being reasoned with.
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Thank you very much everybody who wrote!! That is super nice. But also bc i think it is really important and EVERYBODY talked about it today. If you watch it with subtitles in English i think everybody here can understand it. They had 60 experts like child doctors and psychologist and others who almost all were against it how they did it in the vlogs now. And a person from the cabinet was interviewed and he will make new rules.
And @Wildflower-Farm a vlog is like a video that you film about you and you post it online like every day or every week. I think that is also what you meant so it is the same. 🙂
My parents will watch the episode this evening and that is even my dad. But i am afraid what he thinks of it bc for him everything is the same like social media or a vlog or anything. But i think it is very different bc for example IG you can make super private but a vlog they put online is for everybody and that is NOTTT the same.
Ow and when i was writing this i saw Stasys reply!!! So also thank you!! 🙂 And i think that the parents from the vlogs are not caring so much about permission bc they need the vlogs or they have no money bc they dont have jobs anymore. And even if you are their child and you say it is ok i think that they dont know how dangerous it is unless they can also see the episode. But not if they are younger than 10 bc they dont understand it. And often in family vlogs you see babies every day or when they are super small still. So how can they give permission?
And one vlog family has youtube channels with vlogs of EVERY child and a vlog channel for the FAMILY. That is really not good. At least i think that.
The current legal conundrum in The Netherlands is the limited scope of legislation governing child labour. In essence, content creators can easily avoid needing to file for a permit by carefully structuring their vlogs as “ordinary daily life” and “kids at play” which happens to be captured on camera. Any primary commercial motive, the structural nature and possible exploitive behaviour are somewhat blurred by careful design. A first good step forward would be statutory reform in which the concept of e.g. child labour is reconsidered.
I won`t watch it. No attention from my side for this.
I just came back from an event with my Physio-Team.
We were at the Musical "Frozen"
I still find it very strange that everyone uses a cell phone
wherever they go. So much cell phones in one place give me a headache.
There seems to be no privacy anywhere anymore.
At the average playground in the weekend the majority of adults often seems to be occupied with senseless scrolling on their mobiles instead of constructing a sand castle larger than the Taj Mahal. Family time with your little minions is something to be cherished. Time flies (and in the absence of a mindful parent the same may apply to a rogue mini version which considers itself to be a mini jet while on the swing).
Thank you very much everybody who reacted!! I wanted to give a tip if anybody wants to see more and it is a tip from a friend of me in school: you can watch on Netflix the series Bad Influence. And it is about greedy parents and kidfluencers. I looked online for information in English so people can read it themselves.
Here you can see the trailer if you want on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6H2QyeWAE
Some things i really didnt like what i saw in the trailer:
➡️ The mom who managed it earned in some months 300,000-500,000 dollars from the videos of her daughter and others in the group.
➡️ They had to make 10-15 videos every day.
➡️ 92% of the viewers were adult men!!!!!!!!
➡️ The mom made scripts for the videos and they had to hug and even kiss for the views. The mom said even flirt with the camera.
➡️ If you leave the group and they called it the squad you are blacklisted and the mom makes a hatecampaign.
➡️ They also shouted to the kids in the vlogs.
My friend said that the mom also sold clothes of her daughter that she had on to her fans. But we both think that is really wrong.
I am sorry that i posted AGAIN in this forum but i didnt watch this series and when i watched the trailer I really wanted to post it here so everybody knows how bad it is and i think it is an important topic.
Btw did anybody see the series Bad Influence on Netflix? Maybe @Idkbro, @-Kiki-, @PinkiePie, @Txya, @Mulanyyy, @Miss_Penpal, @Emmiiii_17_11, @Annika2007, @psysarah15 or maybe others? If yes: what did you think of it?
1️⃣ Can children be used in family vlogs that their parents put on social media? When do you think it is allowed and when not? For example can they do challenges for views and in it there are secret commercials? For me its a no efen not with their animals
2️⃣ In the episode they said that the vlogs with the most views is always if people think it sexual even if that is maybe not the reason. So for example if the family swimming or if they do other things and the views are like A LOTTTT higher only then normal. Can their parents decide that even??? No i dont untherstand those people they dont know who look
3️⃣ Do you think that in vlogs you can even see for example if they cry or if they are in a hospital or that they are waken up by their parents in the night for the camera or they are told that their grandparents died and their parents put it on internet?nooo
4️⃣ Do you think family vlogs can be bad for children if they are older? Of course i never put my kids on any social media
5️⃣ If a child of their parents in the vlogs wants to have videos deleted, can they ask for it when they are 13? Or 16? Or 18? Or older? Bc maybe when they are for example 5 they can say yes but in high school they can get BULLIED about it.it mostbe forbidden to put their children unther the age 16
children should NOT be posted online. pedophiles say so as well. I watched some interviews of pedophiles and they explained that sometimes they watch videos from family vlog channels on youtube. child abuse material is obviously illegal,so they find pleasure in watching normal kids having fun on youtube videos. there are also SO many cases of children that got stalked by these monsters,because if the families make many videos in different places,of course the pedophiles can track them down. especially if they do a vlog and for example the parents say in what restaurant they are eating or things like that. never post kids online. especially in swim suits. pedophiles often save the photos that the parents post and put them on different illegal websites. and yes,not only pictures of kids in a swim suit,also normal pics of a kid's face. these monsters are everywhere,some of these people can be people that we see everyday at work,school,the gym etc. I read that child abuse websites are visited by MILLIONS of MILLIONS of people. telegram groups of child abuse have millions and millions of members. many people that sadly have a small brain don't understand that they are everywhere,they think that these things online happen in movies and that pedophiles are not many,so they keep posting and posting these poor kids. this danger is absolutely not only for famous channels,but also for small normal accounts,pedophiles save their photos from everywhere. Facebook,Instagram,YouTube accounts of people that don't even have many followers. so many parents are idiots sadly.
children cannot consent to be on YouTube videos or Instagram posts. you don't know how they will react to it when they grow up or what impact it will have on their life,career,relationships...let children do what they want when they are older enough. there are other ways of having fun. social media should not be part of a little kid's life. I also think that parents that make youtube videos with their kids are fucking weird after a while.
Thanksss Rose @Idkbro for your comment!!! I completely forgot i made this forum but i think what you say is right. And in my country there was a LOTTT of discussion when the episode was made of the programme i mentioned above. Even in the politics. But the families they mentioned are still making videos. The one that was the most famous moved to Dubai bc in that way they can do what they want. The children of that family are homeschooled and before they were in normal schools. And in that family every of the children has an OWN youtube channel and in the BOOS episode someone said that one of the parents was everywhere asking if the children can be in shows or other contents and they have to pay money to the parents. I think that is not normal. And one thing for example they said in the BOOS episode was ALSO the risk from hate comments. Bc of the family i mentioned people posted things online that were REALLY bad and it happened with almost every video. And if you read those things i think it is super bad and if it would happen with me i would really feel VERY insecure or depressed bc OTHERS ALSO read it!!!!!! And the parents just said ok well they have to get used to it bc it is normal in society. BUTTTT i think if you dont put them on youtube they dont get those comments and if you are older you can choose it yourself but now they cant really choose bc their parents get money from it. I think that is wrong.
Thanksss Rose @Idkbro for your comment!!! I completely forgot i made this forum but i think what you say is right. And in my country there was a LOTTT of discussion when the episode was made of the programme i mentioned above. Even in the politics. But the families they mentioned are still making videos. The one that was the most famous moved to Dubai bc in that way they can do what they want. The children of that family are homeschooled and before they were in normal schools. And in that family every of the children has an OWN youtube channel and in the BOOS episode someone said that one of the parents was everywhere asking if the children can be in shows or other contents and they have to pay money to the parents. I think that is not normal. And one thing for example they said in the BOOS episode was ALSO the risk from hate comments. Bc of the family i mentioned people posted things online that were REALLY bad and it happened with almost every video. And if you read those things i think it is super bad and if it would happen with me i would really feel VERY insecure or depressed bc OTHERS ALSO read it!!!!!! And the parents just said ok well they have to get used to it bc it is normal in society. BUTTTT i think if you dont put them on youtube they dont get those comments and if you are older you can choose it yourself but now they cant really choose bc their parents get money from it. I think that is wrong.
there is a very good documentary on Netflix called bad influence about this topic. its so interesting
and I think that you are right
there is a very good documentary on Netflix called bad influence about this topic. its so interesting
and I think that you are right
Yes i mentioned it above BUTTTT i have not watched it myself yet. I did see the trailer and if people dont know the documentary you can look above a couple of posts and see it there and also some things that were said in the documentary! I will watch it too but i am afraid that you feel pressure too when you watch it bc it gets in your head too i think. Bc the mom was pushing everybody and i think that was really bad. But i think it is a very good tip what Rose said above so if people are interested it maybe you can watch and tell here what you think about it. 🙏🙏🙏
Everyone wants to be a social media influencer these days. People see a kid like Ryan Kaji and want to use their children to get rich quick too. I know about Ryan's World because I have a child born about the same time as Ryan and all the kids around that age watched his videos. Parents at school all said they wished they would have come up with that idea.
https://resident.com/business-and-finance/2024/08/26/ryan-kajis-net-worth-how-a-young-youtuber-became-one-of-the-richest-creators-before-his-teens#:~:text=His%20channel%2C%20%E2%80%9CRyan%27s%20World%E2%80%9D,TV%20shows%2C%20and%20lucrative%20sponsorships.
I remember when Youtube was bought by Google and I thought what a waste of money. Who is going to stop watching broadcast TV and sit at their computer scrolling through pages to select a video? A son of a friend was an early employee of Twitch. Again, I thought who wants to watch people play video games? I've realized there are a ton of different interests that people have and people are capitalizing on an ability to make money by catering to what people want to watch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_YouTube
https://golightstream.com/how-much-do-twitch-streamers-make/
Everyone wants to be a social media influencer these days. People see a kid like Ryan Kaji and want to use their children to get rich quick too. I know about Ryan's World because I have a child born about the same time as Ryan and all the kids around that age watched his videos. Parents at school all said they wished they would have come up with that idea.
https://resident.com/business-and-finance/2024/08/26/ryan-kajis-net-worth-how-a-young-youtuber-became-one-of-the-richest-creators-before-his-teens#:~:text=His%20channel%2C%20%E2%80%9CRyan%27s%20World%E2%80%9D,TV%20shows%2C%20and%20lucrative%20sponsorships.
I remember when Youtube was bought by Google and I thought what a waste of money. Who is going to stop watching broadcast TV and sit at their computer scrolling through pages to select a video? A son of a friend was an early employee of Twitch. Again, I thought who wants to watch people play video games? I've realized there are a ton of different interests that people have and people are capitalizing on an ability to make money by catering to what people want to watch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_YouTubehttps://golightstream.com/how-much-do-twitch-streamers-make/
I saw with a friend in our city one time a mom and she was making a vlog of the dad and he held a baby in his arm in a shop and he was talking to the baby but they did the same thing several times with EXACTLY the same thing that he was saying to the baby. So it was not just like maybe casually but they made the text already what he would say.
But we both did not recognize them at all and we only tried to make sure that we are NOTTT on the video bc they can just post on YouTube without asking anybody if that is ok nor not ok. But it is the first time i saw smb making a vlog like that for youtube i think. I just prefer NOT to be on it and my friend is also the same!!
With tiktok i see it very often that people make content for it but a vlog for youtube is really different.
I saw with a friend in our city one time a mom and she was making a vlog of the dad and he held a baby in his arm in a shop and he was talking to the baby but they did the same thing several times with EXACTLY the same thing that he was saying to the baby. So it was not just like maybe casually but they made the text already what he would say.
But we both did not recognize them at all and we only tried to make sure that we are NOTTT on the video bc they can just post on YouTube without asking anybody if that is ok nor not ok. But it is the first time i saw smb making a vlog like that for youtube i think. I just prefer NOT to be on it and my friend is also the same!!
With tiktok i see it very often that people make content for it but a vlog for youtube is really different.
I hate when people record you and post you without your consent it happens so much and they just don’t give a fuck and don’t even cover the faces
I hate when people record you and post you without your consent it happens so much and they just don’t give a fuck and don’t even cover the faces
On YT you can see they even do on swimming pools or on vacation parks and now with us in shops (but also others i saw that on YT) and everywhere really. But is that even allowed? But i dont want to go ask when they are recording. We just try not to be on it and get out of the shop when we can.
On YT you can see they even do on swimming pools or on vacation parks and now with us in shops (but also others i saw that on YT) and everywhere really. But is that even allowed? But i dont want to go ask when they are recording. We just try not to be on it and get out of the shop when we can.
I am not sure it’s even legal