- They are taking the sense of racism too far now: placing simple stickers to protect the white race as well is not even allowed: a guy in UK who has done that, landed for three years in jail. Lot of protests have geen going on about that. So now he's more free.
You usually don't get imprisoned for placing harmless stickers. These people were most likely not imprisoned for the stickers themselves, but because the material was classified as a hate crime or terrorism offense
Definition of Tolerance:
the ability or willingness to tolerate the existence of opinions or behaviour that one dislikes or disagrees with:
OR
the capacity to endure continued subjection to something such as a drug or environmental conditions without adverse reaction
Please read that carefully. Does it say "the requirement to love, like, or absolutely accept something based on what is politically correct?"
No, it does not.
I have to hear people and see things everyday that I don't like, or even offend me. But that's whole point of freedom of speech. What's worse? The people who should know better, the people who spent years marching in the streets... who spent years being the victims of intolerance and bullshit laws that prevented them from living their lives or just being themselves, are the same people cheering on laws that silence people they don't agree with. The media is full of scare stories about the resurgence of the far right. This is to be expected when you silence people when speak out, which what a healthy democracy should encourage. The UK is prime example of what happens when we try to silence people based solely on the things they say.
LGBTQ? Fine... Fuck limits in your life and be free. Want me to call you Charlene instead of Charles? Fine. But I'm sorry (not really), chromosomes don't lie... If you were to read my mind, I'll still see you as a man. Is that hate? Or me simply disagreeing with someone's worldview? You make that decision.
As far toxic goes? If you see someone disagreeing with you on something as "toxic," then you are in for miserable existence. I'm not staying quiet about something I disagree with, I'll present it nicely, I'll make my point and that's it. Ban me if you want... get my account deleted if you must. Melting down because someone simply says "I don't agree" says the following about you....
"I have high opinions about things I don't fully understand and cannot defend rationally, so I will scream and carry on because the volume of my voice and emotions will prove that I'm right,"
And before anyone gets butthurt... Left, right or center... if you can't accept rational disagreements without having a hissy fit. You need therapy.
Now excuse me... I have an irritable mom-to-be to take the doctors this morning....
We, as people, label ourselves. We like the easily identifiable. When something or someone comes along that we can't easily label, we feel threatened.
Labeling is human.
No, that's how the gov takes it, this guy wasn't placing hateful stickers at all. You can search him up. His name's Samuel Melia. Probably the media will describe his stickers as hateful, but that's just because they will describe swearing at a black person because he/she has done something stupid, as hateful as well. Simply because they don't have any respect for the white race.
Okay, I quote:
"The alleged leader of a white nationalist organisation displayed a picture of Adolf Hitler and Third Reich posters in his home, a court has heard."
Sorry but in my opinion this does not sound as harmless as you describe it at all. Especially when you say "He wants to protect the white race" and "They don't have any respect for the white race"
Okay, I quote:
"The alleged leader of a white nationalist organisation displayed a picture of Adolf Hitler and Third Reich posters in his home, a court has heard."
Sorry but in my opinion this does not sound as harmless as you describe it at all. Especially when you say "He wants to protect the white race" and "They don't have any respect for the white race"
Not sure of this one, and I say this as an American where such things are considered part of the whole 1st Amendment argument... in other words.. pictures of Hitler are understandly more distasteful in Europe, for obvious reasons.
The problem here is.. the media treats any hint of "conservative" as far right. No matter how mild. This is extremely tiresome, and creates an atmosphere that invites radicalism. Just MHO ..
this sounds like you`re saying people like Hitler were so bad? There's no prove on it. He might very well have been a great person. You must not believe everything gov and history says.
Bro, what? Hitler was a dictator, started WW2 by invading Poland, concentration camps were built under his regime, millions of people were killed, were forced to flee, or were forced into war and you're telling me "he might have been a great person"? I don't care if he might have been a "great person" in his private life. His policies and worldviews have cost millions of people their lives and homes. There are good reasons why so many things related to the Nazis are banned in Germany and in many other countries as well.
Also I'm sorry to say this, but I feel like y'all are telling me to do some
research. I did, and it seems like you're the ones who didn't actually
look into this case. This isn't a situation where the media saw one
conservative opinion and stickers and called someone "far right" and
"arrest this guy". This man had a documented history of promoting
racist, antisemitic, and extremist material.
I will quote another article for you:
"Melia was the head of the Telegram Messenger group Hundred Handers, a social media channel that generated racist and anti-immigration stickers that were printed off and displayed in public places.The stickers contained "ethnic slurs" about minority communities which displayed a "deep-seated antipathy to those groups", the court heard.
'Nationalistic and vitriolic'
The court also heard Melia had an "obsessive interest" in Sir Oswald Mosley, who founded the British Union of Fascists in the 1930s, and that he was attempting to "peddle the same antisemitism". Melia had a poster of Hitler in his garage, a book by Mosley in his bedroom and it was found that much of the material Hundred Handers published was "xenophobic, nationalistic and vitriolic"."
personal reasons, please don't name me like this. Thank you.
Sorry but you were trying to use another account of yours to prove that you were "right" by pretending that there are more people who agree with you. It's good that she mentioned that it's 2 accounts but the same person
My grandfather was in a concentration camp in Germany. My great-grandparents died after German soldiers set fire to their home. Hitler and Mussolini were criminals. This is the true story. There are many places in Italy where the entire population was massacred by the Nazis, including children.
You cannot prove it was actually Hitler; they have changed faces.
Look, I don't joke or forgive when it comes to things like this. If you keep going like this, our friendship is over.
Sorry but you were trying to use another account of yours to prove that you were "right" by pretending that there are more people who agree with you. It's good that she mentioned that it's 2 accounts but the same person
Of course u dont lose ur mind @Txya and @Fleurke i agree 1000000000000% and it is not only those two accounts as u know but also others and i will not mention the names but a lot of ppl already know them. It is super obvious and VERYYYY annoying. But using like it is two different persons like now......... ❌🙅♀️
The Holocaust is one of the worst things that EVER happened and everybody knows that. Telling that Hitler was not a bad person or changed faces or that we need more proof than all the victims is not serious and just making a stupid and really bad joke ORRRRR they have really no idea and have not a problem to show the whole world they have not an idea at all. It is sad and it can make u super angry but it is just WASTE of time. Im really sorryy Lorenzo @Pennarossa2024 what happened to your family. I know stories from my family and war when it was in Nanjing in China and what terrible things happened. If these really cruel and terrible things happen then dont get one person now who jokes or has NO idea make an insult like that. It is really terrible and that insult should not be given your time at all. Persons like that make me sick and i dont want ANYTHING to do with them EVERRRR.
You cannot prove it was actually Hitler; they have changed faces.
I understand you're annoyed by woke ideology and its fake tolerance; I'm also annoyed by that. However, you went into another extreme by praising Hitler and Nazis. I believe that @Pennarossa2024's comment is true. Similar things were happening here - my grandpa lost his father, two sisters and brother within less than 30 minutes. SS division "Prinz Eugen" (verifable fact on the internet) arrived into the village, put everybody they've found into 3 houses (more than 300 people), set them on fire and shot at houses with machine guns.
This will sound weird, but I agree that we can't know for sure if Hitler or any other mass murder or criminal was a bad person because we'll never know why they was doing such horrible things. Only God knows that. But we must condemn their actions which were, objectively looking, horrible. Somebody (I forgot who) said "if we forget the history, it may be repeated again".
