πŸ₯° FIRST love ❀️

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Helloooo everybody!! πŸ™‹β€β™€οΈ I really wanted to make this forum before the vacation next week and read what others think abt the topic. πŸ™„πŸ™„ Thank u very much everybody who wants to answer these questions or just write and post what u want and think. πŸ™πŸ™β€οΈπŸ₯°


Questions:


1️⃣ If u had a first love: how was it to have a first relationship?

Big difference between first relationship and first love. I can't remember the name of the "girlfriend" I had because I was 6th grade and that "relationship" lasted maybe a month.

Also.. Lust and physical attraction are very different from that warm and of the real love feels. There were girls i thought I loved, though looking back now, I was more in lust than in love with them..

That said. My first REAL love began when I was 20. Like most relationships, it was a casual start that increased in intensity as time went on.


2️⃣ Do you still have contact with that person? And if yes: do u still speak often?

She died 13 years ago. So, no. But we did reconnect in the years before she passed.

3️⃣ Who asked the other and what happened? Like did u go on a date first maybe or maybe hang or eat ice cream or go to the cinema?

No one"asked." We "hooked up" when I moved to NYC. A bit of background is in order, I think... she was from Baltimore and I was from DC. The two cities are fairly close in distance, and so people from the Baltimore scene would often travel to DC to catch shows and vice versa, so we ran in the same circle and were kinda friends. She went to NYC a couple months before me. When I arrived in the city, I had no place to stay, so I squatted with her and her friends while I looked for a place, and that's how our friendship grew into something more.

4️⃣ How did u know that the person was having a crush on u?

It was clear there was some chemistry when we first met at a show in Baltimore.. but I was dating someone else at the time. Hard to say who "crushed" first. Probably me...

5️⃣ How do u know that it is not only a crush that u had but that u had much bigger feelings? Im really curious what ppl think abt this!

Well... I eventually got a place in Brooklyn. One of the guys from The Krays, needed a roommate. I had a job by that point, so I moved out of the squat. At first, we were strictly FWB, but over the next couple months we started spending more and more time together until it was obvious that exclusivity was necessary.

6️⃣ Did u regret your first relationship or would you do that again if you could choose?

Sigh. Yes and no.

You never forget your first real love, and for some us, that intensity, that fraughtness becomes the watermark you base all subsequent relationships on. That is a regret i carry. Still, I would absolutely do it again. She was a rush..


7️⃣ Do u still have things from ur first relationship like maybe a gift or photos or things like cinema ticket or smt else like sweet notes?

I would pay her way into shows (the crusty, squatter punk crowd was always short of cash). I'd buy her t-shirts. When her boots wore out, I bought her new ones. Mostly, I wrote songs about her, or when I had the band, would dedicate songs to her.. to the point where my bandmates asked me to stop.

For her part... she would ALWAYs come to our band's shows. I would make sure she and other girls she hung out with were on the guest list. She would come to my place and blockbuster and chill, etc.

When you're in a band and you're just starting out, it isn't easy. Back then, there was no bandcamp or YouTube that you could put your music on and attract an audience. You had to play out, usually supporting other bands. In those early months, we were usually the first band on, which meant we played to maybe 10 people at times (most people would sit outside during our set or just show up later for other bands). Her support in those early days was crucial. She helped generate buzz, and her enthusiasm kept our morale up.

8️⃣ Did u kiss with ur first love and talk also abt ur feelings with that person of each other? Was it difficult to talk or were u not nervous but just super relaxed?

Uhhh yaaa? There was kissing somewhere in that first night together. Alcohol clouds the memories of that night, but it wasn't like sat up until morning telling each other all our most intimate thoughts. That, like it should, came over time. I do recall being shy when I first met her... always shy around girls... but by the time we hooked up, I was fairly comfortable being around her.

9️⃣ How long did ur first relationship last?

Ohhh geez. A year and half? I tried to keep it going in the month after she OD'd .. but at 21 you just arent equipped, emotionally, to care for someone with fairly severe neurological damage.

πŸ”Ÿ Are there things u do now very differently than with ur first love?

I learned...that I'm too stubborn to learn when it comes to her type.

What I would do differently? Nothing. Hindsight is always 20/20. And the trauma was something i was able to learn from, and the great times I always cherish.

➑️ Do you maybe have a nice tip or smt else to say or a question that i must add to the list?

Sigh. Hang on tightly.. let go lightly. Remember that you can love someone but at the same time, not be in a relationship with them.

Have boundaries. Don't draw a line in the sand, etch it in concrete. Tough love. When her drug use became a big problem, I should have kicked her to the curb, but I was young and thought I could love her out of addiction. The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care.. remember that? ..right.. yeah. I knew she loved me enough that had I stuck to my guns and sent her packing, she would have eventually stopped and gotten help... but I always took her back and played her enabler.

Also, when things go south, there will be bitterness, and that's ok, but don't hold on to that bitterness for too long. It eats away at you like a cancer. Forgive, but only when you are truly ready to do that. That's the biggest regret, I never truly forgave her until she was gone, and by that time, it was too late.


I am really curious what ppl say and think and hope that ppl answer even if u did NOTTT have a first relationship just what u think abt some of the things above or if u had like a LOTTTT of relationships. Thank u very much for posting what u think and i really want to read every post. πŸ™πŸ™β­πŸŒΈ


❣️ Hugggsss and thanks from Yue ❣️


Edited by Based_Aura .

My first time answering a post! Im quite nervous about It haha

1. Well, It wasnt really a relationship. I met her during a summer camp when we were both 12, but she had a toxic boyfriend back then, It was just love at first sight.

2. No, I lost all kind of contact. I tried to search for her, even asked the summer camp stuff for her telephone but impossible.

3. It was sutil, we were all the time together. I think she liked me back, but with her boyfriend around It was complicated. There was some chemistry, no words needed.

4. How she looked at me. I remember how she was radiant when we were together.

5. I dont know, and never will. We got separated after that, and never met her again.

6. I dont regret meeting her, never will. My only regret is not being able to help her get out of that abusive relationship.

7. I still have a t-shirt, with her signature on It. Im never throwing that.

8. We didnt kiss, or talked about. Again because of her boyfriend. But we did spend a night looking at the stars, handholding and cuddling.

9. Barely a week, sadly.

10. I dont really know, never got Into that many of relationships to actually know haha

Thanksss very much Maorii Linnn @chiikawaattack, @Based_Aura and @Ru_phd!!! πŸ™πŸ™πŸ˜ŠπŸ˜‡ I will reply later because i have to help now with some things at home. BUTTT i wanted to tell @Ru_phd that i know EXACTLYY what u meant about being super nervous the first time to post on the forum. But now i post a LOTTT so u can just write anytime u like in ANY forum. So i hope that u feel really welcome to do that!!!! πŸ™‚

Wow i just read what u wrote @Based_Aura and that was a BIG SHOCK!!!!! I am really sorry that it happened and if i understand it correctly u mean that she died from drugs?? I really hate drugs because they ONLY create a lot of problems and it destroys people and friends and a lot of things!!! πŸ™πŸ™πŸ₯ΊπŸ˜£ Can i maybe ask what is her name because at our mini altar in our living room i can perhaps burn incense for her if that is ok. I know that u maybe dont believe in that and u are not Buddhist but i can also burn incense for somebody who is important to u and maybe that can help so she is more calm spiritual and u too. But if u dont like it i will not do that. πŸ™πŸ•―οΈβ­πŸ•―οΈπŸ™


I dont understand some things what u say like that hindisight is 20/20, OD, FWB and if u mean u had argument with her? Because u said that u didnt forgive her until she was gone? Sorry if i misunderstand it a lot but i hope that u will be ok and i would like to pray for her too if that is allowed. ❀️


And Maorii Lin @chiikawaattack i think it is terrible about that they dont do anything about bullying. So in our school what u can do is go to the director but nobody does it. So in that case u can just go to ur mentor and u can take for example a friend and tell it to ur mentor. BUTTT in that case normally they are not super strict and just talk with the bully and some people dont even go to their mentor because they know often nothing really changes. ANDD ALSO a lot of times things happen outside of the school so they wait until for example u bike out and they wait somewhere or hang where u also go.


Thank u again @Ru_phd for writing and it is super painful maybe because u didnt get the relationship that way because of her boyfriend. But it is ALSO beautiful because it was special what u wrote and for example that u looked at the stars and that it was romantic in nice way. πŸ™‚ And i like that u wrote the word radiant because i know what u mean now with it and i think it is very beautiful to write that way. 😊😊😊

Wow i just read what u wrote @Based_Aura and that was a BIG SHOCK!!!!! I am really sorry that it happened and if i understand it correctly u mean that she died from drugs?? I really hate drugs because they ONLY create a lot of problems and it destroys people and friends and a lot of things!!! πŸ™πŸ™πŸ₯ΊπŸ˜£ Can i maybe ask what is her name because at our mini altar in our living room i can perhaps burn incense for her if that is ok. I know that u maybe dont believe in that and u are not Buddhist but i can also burn incense for somebody who is important to u and maybe that can help so she is more calm spiritual and u too. But if u dont like it i will not do that. πŸ™πŸ•―οΈβ­πŸ•―οΈπŸ™

By all means. She was of Vietnamese ethnicity (born in the US to parents who were refugees from the war) and her family were Buddhist, though I don't think they practiced (only knew her mom, her dad died long before we met).

Her given name was Trang, but we called her Nikki/Icky. Everyone had a nickname back then.

Ok.. so here's a quick run down of what happened. The band i was in had some show dates in Connecticut for that particular weekend and that's a .. shortish drive from NYC. The show was going to be recorded and we were going to use that recording as our second demo.

Usually, Icky went with us, and she ran our merch table (this is a small table where bands sell their t shirts, records, stickers, etc). But she had been banned from that because we caught her skimming.. she still wanted to go, but the other guys were like.. no.. she stays in NYC, and I didn't argue it.

Anyways she OD'd on heroin the weekend we were gone, she was with other junkies, who, being junkies, didn't want to call the paramedics because they didn't want the police showing up. So they dragged her out of the apartment, down the stairs and left her oustide for someone else to call.

Her family had a history of heart trouble, so she went into cardiac arrest... and she stopped breathing. They got her heart started again, but lack of oxygen to the brain......you know the deal. She couldn't use her right arm. She walked woth a limp, and she could barely speak. Her mother and I had to help her eat.


Years later, when I reconnected with her, she was a little better.. still walked with a limp, memory was spotty (though she remembered me). And she was emotionally 15 years old. By that time, she had early cirrhosis, from Hep C complications. One day, she had the flu, which turned into pneumonia, and the infection went to her liver, and she died. Her mother and I are convinced she just gave up..the old Icky wanted to be free.

I dont understand some things what u say like that hindisight is 20/20, OD, FWB and if u mean u had argument with her? Because u said that u didnt forgive her until she was gone? Sorry if i misunderstand it a lot but i hope that u will be ok and i would like to pray for her too if that is allowed. ❀️

My one goal.. ever since I was 11. Was to have a record with my name and songs on it. Her OD derailed those plans... it still stings, because the band was getting good. We had buzz... and GMM records were interested. Not all her fault, but I did blame her.


20/20 means you have perfect vision. Hindsight is understanding an event or situation after it happened. We always have perfect vision looking at the past.


Ummm... OD means drug overdose. FWB.. means friend with benefits. I.e. a friend that is also a sexual partner.. sorry...

And Maorii Lin @chiikawaattack i think it is terrible about that they dont do anything about bullying. So in our school what u can do is go to the director but nobody does it. So in that case u can just go to ur mentor and u can take for example a friend and tell it to ur mentor. BUTTT in that case normally they are not super strict and just talk with the bully and some people dont even go to their mentor because they know often nothing really changes. ANDD ALSO a lot of times things happen outside of the school so they wait until for example u bike out and they wait somewhere or hang where u also go.


Thank u again @Ru_phd for writing and it is super painful maybe because u didnt get the relationship that way because of her boyfriend. But it is ALSO beautiful because it was special what u wrote and for example that u looked at the stars and that it was romantic in nice way. πŸ™‚ And i like that u wrote the word radiant because i know what u mean now with it and i think it is very beautiful to write that way. 😊😊😊


@Based_Aura thank u VERY much!!! πŸ™β€οΈπŸ™ When u wrote i first asked that we could burn incense and pray but im not sure if it is EXACTLY the same in Vietnamese and our way. But my mom helped and we poured tea so i hope maybe she liked that when she lived. I hope that is ok!!!!!


I did not translate for my mom the second part what u wrote but i did the first part. And what she said i think is very TRUEE. So what she said is that if u try to do your best and it is from love then you NEVER do wrong so u cant blame yourself. Because at that time you did things from love and that you tried to be there for Icky. So u should not blame yourself but that it is only because of the situation and NOT what you did from loving. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ₯° I hope that u understand what i mean to say and sorryy if it is confusing.


If anybody can do something for you then just write it to that person or where u want and then we are for you and for Icky!!! βœ¨πŸ’«β­


❀️🌈✨ For somebody special!!!! πŸ™πŸ•―οΈπŸ™

Maybe for fun we can make nice couples so not seriously!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜› Sooo perhaps a nice couple is Kerttu @Torakka and Nidhi @Nishu so it is time to ship them!!! If u dont know what that means u can read it here in a forum of Arabian Princess from some time ago which was super funny!!! U can read it here if u want: https://penpal-gate.net/forum/13-anything-and-everything/8857-let-s-ship-people


Other couples we can make and ship are:


❀️ @Fleurke and @Pennarossa2024

❀️ @Dracula and @Chantal-


And i will think of more later!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

Maybe for fun we can make nice couples so not seriously!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜› Sooo perhaps a nice couple is Kerttu @Torakka and Nidhi @Nishu so it is time to ship them!!! If u dont know what that means u can read it here in a forum of Arabian Princess from some time ago which was super funny!!! U can read it here if u want: https://penpal-gate.net/forum/13-anything-and-everything/8857-let-s-ship-people


Other couples we can make and ship are:


❀️ @Fleurke and @Pennarossa2024

❀️ @Dracula and @Chantal-


And i will think of more later!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

Ill allow that

Kerttu who do u think we should ship too?? We can maybe do matchmaking for others! πŸ˜ƒ BUTTT we need a big ship for everybody!! πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡

Kerttu who do u think we should ship too?? We can maybe do matchmaking for others! πŸ˜ƒ BUTTT we need a big ship for everybody!! πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡

I think Titanic would suit us well.

I think Titanic would suit us well.

Only if u and @Nishu do the scene from the movie that u hold hands!! ANDDD we will not have the ice route but maybe to super tropic islands!!! πŸ–οΈβ›΅πŸŒˆπŸŒžπŸš€πŸŒ΄


Which other couples do u think are nice? πŸ™‚

Maybe for fun we can make nice couples so not seriously!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜› Sooo perhaps a nice couple is Kerttu @Torakka and Nidhi @Nishu so it is time to ship them!!! If u dont know what that means u can read it here in a forum of Arabian Princess from some time ago which was super funny!!! U can read it here if u want: https://penpal-gate.net/forum/13-anything-and-everything/8857-let-s-ship-people


Other couples we can make and ship are:


❀️ @Fleurke and @Pennarossa2024

❀️ @Dracula and @Chantal-


And i will think of more later!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

@Yue_, you mentioned all my good friends in couples.. @Fleurke , @Pennarossa2024 and @Chantal- !!! I did not know when and how they became couple? πŸ˜›

@Yue_, you mentioned all my good friends in couples.. @Fleurke , @Pennarossa2024 and @Chantal- !!! I did not know when and how they became couple? πŸ˜›

Owww is super easy i can make EVERYBODY couple but if people are for example already married then it is only that they are PPG couple so if u look for a wife i can marry you super fast!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜›


If u want see how fast and when was really super crazy: https://penpal-gate.net/forum/14-games/9589-adoption-game That is maybe the most crazy forum on PPG or at least one of it and it was really funny and went so fast that everybody was like πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅πŸ˜΅

Owww is super easy i can make EVERYBODY couple but if people are for example already married then it is only that they are PPG couple so if u look for a wife i can marry you super fast!!! πŸ˜› πŸ˜›


If u want see how fast and when was really super crazy: https://penpal-gate.net/forum/14-games/9589-adoption-game That is maybe the most crazy forum on PPG or at least one of it and it was really funny and went so fast that everybody was like πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜΅πŸ˜΅

Am I most eligible bachelor ??? lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Yue would like to be PPG wife, that's interesting πŸ˜› ..


I have gone through the forum you shared.. it's really crazy forum.. let's restart that forum.. πŸ˜ƒ πŸ˜ƒ


If u had a first love: how was it to have a first relationship?
Adventurous, knowing someone who wants to be with you and share things together.

Do you still have contact with that person? And if yes: do u still speak often?
Nah, not, it’s quite a while since I had that.

Who asked the other and what happened? Like did u go on a date first maybe or maybe hang or eat ice cream or go to the cinema?
We were schoolmates and enjoyed some good times together. Then she asked me if I wanna try it.

How did u know that the person was having a crush on u?
She told me so.

How do u know that it is not only a crush that u had but that u had much bigger feelings? Im really curious what ppl think abt this!
Well, if you feel good about someone and like to see that person often, on a regular basis, then you know, that this person is important to you.

Did u regret your first relationship or would you do that again if you could choose?
Well, I have no regrets about it, we lived apart, means we lived miles away from each other and couldn’t meet on a regular basis, that’s why it stopped.

Do u still have things from ur first relationship like maybe a gift or photos or things like cinema ticket or smt else like sweet notes?
Those things are all gone. Just a few memories, how she was. But it’s too long since we had that, more than 30 years ago.

Did u kiss with ur first love and talk also abt ur feelings with that person of each other? Was it difficult to talk or were u not nervous but just super relaxed?
We felt good about talking, then started to kiss and talked again and again, even had long phone calls.

How long did ur first relationship last?
Almost 2 years.

Are there things u do now very differently than with ur first love?
Yes, I’m alone and wonder if I may get a new chance to meet someone again.

Do you maybe have a nice tip or smt else to say or a question that i must add to the list?
If it’s the right thing for you to start a relationship, even though it might be a long distance relationship, which I had, then go on and give it a try.

It is really beautiful what u wrote and it felt super sweet and nice how it was in your relationship!!!! πŸ™πŸ™πŸ˜ŠπŸ˜Š I think with long distance it is less scary too so that is better BUTTT also if u want to meet and do nice things together in centre or maybe just hang then it is nicer if u live super close and u can get to know each other more if u see each other EVERY day. Can i ask how would it be if u dont expect it but SUDDENLY u see her in real life? Would u try to talk and know what happened after the relationship? πŸ™„


Am I most eligible bachelor ??? lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Yue would like to be PPG wife, that's interesting πŸ˜› ..


I have gone through the forum you shared.. it's really crazy forum.. let's restart that forum.. πŸ˜ƒ πŸ˜ƒ


Hahahahh i meant i marry you like i arrange it because i think you want a super nice bride!!! BUTTT u are right so we should make a new adoption game!!!! πŸ˜› I will make it soon and post here link!!!! ❣️🌈❀️🌈❣️

Helloooo everybody!! πŸ™‹β€β™€οΈ I really wanted to make this forum before the vacation next week and read what others think abt the topic. πŸ™„πŸ™„ Thank u very much everybody who wants to answer these questions or just write and post what u want and think. πŸ™πŸ™β€οΈπŸ₯°


Questions:


1️⃣ If u had a first love: how was it to have a first relationship?

2️⃣ Do you still have contact with that person? And if yes: do u still speak often?

3️⃣ Who asked the other and what happened? Like did u go on a date first maybe or maybe hang or eat ice cream or go to the cinema?

4️⃣ How did u know that the person was having a crush on u?

5️⃣ How do u know that it is not only a crush that u had but that u had much bigger feelings? Im really curious what ppl think abt this!

6️⃣ Did u regret your first relationship or would you do that again if you could choose?

7️⃣ Do u still have things from ur first relationship like maybe a gift or photos or things like cinema ticket or smt else like sweet notes?

8️⃣ Did u kiss with ur first love and talk also abt ur feelings with that person of each other? Was it difficult to talk or were u not nervous but just super relaxed?

9️⃣ How long did ur first relationship last?

πŸ”Ÿ Are there things u do now very differently than with ur first love?

➑️ Do you maybe have a nice tip or smt else to say or a question that i must add to the list?


I am really curious what ppl say and think and hope that ppl answer even if u did NOTTT have a first relationship just what u think abt some of the things above or if u had like a LOTTTT of relationships. Thank u very much for posting what u think and i really want to read every post. πŸ™πŸ™β­πŸŒΈ


❣️ Hugggsss and thanks from Yue ❣️

1. Well, I wouldn’t call it relationship, but she said that I was going around and telling everyone, that we had a relationship, but I didn't 'cause we hadn't.

2. We don't have contact, but we are in the same class, unfortunately

3. I asked, but just for school dance next year and she said "Hey, that's nice, thank's, let's get known to each other". No, luckily we had no date

4. She had no crush on me, maybe for a few days, not a lot, the same as me.

5. Not much bigger it was just a crush and then it was repulsive

6. Oh I really regret the "relationship"

7. Nope

8. No

9. September to December

10. Ah yeah, for sure. I don't asked a girl anymore for a school dance or something like that.

Helloooo everybody!! πŸ™‹β€β™€οΈ I really wanted to make this forum before the vacation next week and read what others think abt the topic. πŸ™„πŸ™„ Thank u very much everybody who wants to answer these questions or just write and post what u want and think. πŸ™πŸ™β€οΈπŸ₯°


Questions:


1️⃣ If u had a first love: how was it to have a first relationship?

2️⃣ Do you still have contact with that person? And if yes: do u still speak often?

3️⃣ Who asked the other and what happened? Like did u go on a date first maybe or maybe hang or eat ice cream or go to the cinema?

4️⃣ How did u know that the person was having a crush on u?

5️⃣ How do u know that it is not only a crush that u had but that u had much bigger feelings? Im really curious what ppl think abt this!

6️⃣ Did u regret your first relationship or would you do that again if you could choose?

7️⃣ Do u still have things from ur first relationship like maybe a gift or photos or things like cinema ticket or smt else like sweet notes?

8️⃣ Did u kiss with ur first love and talk also abt ur feelings with that person of each other? Was it difficult to talk or were u not nervous but just super relaxed?

9️⃣ How long did ur first relationship last?

πŸ”Ÿ Are there things u do now very differently than with ur first love?

➑️ Do you maybe have a nice tip or smt else to say or a question that i must add to the list?


I am really curious what ppl say and think and hope that ppl answer even if u did NOTTT have a first relationship just what u think abt some of the things above or if u had like a LOTTTT of relationships. Thank u very much for posting what u think and i really want to read every post. πŸ™πŸ™β­πŸŒΈ


❣️ Hugggsss and thanks from Yue ❣️

ahggg @Yue_ youu make me feel more singleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee