Except Turkey and Russia and Hungary, ....
Turkey barely is in Europe. I dont think that Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia, Albania... are particularly priviledged, and would rather live in Hungary than any of these.
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What I am trying to say is that it's not only a reduction of time, but more than that and the effects might not be as good as expected, but also not as bad as its detractors. For examples, some estimate that it allowed the creation of 400k jobs (you might tell me that it is difficult to evaluate properly the number of jobs it created, but same could be said about its failure in this case). Yes, the crisis was in 2008; but then you would look only at the short terms effects?
Again, failure has been largely documented and acknowledged by the entire political spectrum, 8 years are objectively more than enough to assess the outcome.
It's 10% for now and yes, the article first argument is about a potential market crash, which we are irronically rushing to in France, and n o, it's not like a car crash where you actually drive your car. You have very little incidence on the market. Furthermore, my gt feeling as someone working in biology is that your chance of losing value is very optimistic given the energy crisis incoming, as well as resource crisis. I dont' know for how long you can realistically expect a 10% return every year without everything collapsing, but I admit finance is further and further from what I know.
We're not rushing towards a market crash. The only crisis we're facing is because of debt, due to the very same system you seem to praise. The car analogy holds up (not that it really matters) because you still have no control over other drivers on the road. Numbers are neither optimistic or pessimistic, you can go back 100 years and you will see the same linear trend. As a man of science, I trust you should have more faith in long term stats and maybe leave some "gut feelings" aside ๐.
You talk about elephant in the room too, but while you made a very good argument earlier talkign about how young doesn't need to wait elders to get a spot on the job market, you also forget that if it was only a demography issues, the system would have long crashed. It hasn't because we happens to be more productive (for now at least than our predecessors.
It is mostly a demography issue and the system is starting to crash, we're just artificially delaying the inevitable collapse through debt (the whole social system is to blame, not just pensions, but they are a prime factor)
Additionnally, if you can make the problem a little bit easier to solve with a bunch of children, then nothing prevent the state to save the current system with a pro-natality policy, couldn't they?
Absolutely, but they chose to open the borders to massively import workers instead. Unfortunately we didn't end up with so many "workers", and those who do work create very little value.
Exactly. Then maybe you have grabbed, he re, another potential way to fix, at least partly, the problem of welfare in France without having to turn it into a fully liberal state. I suppose that is something we are irreconciliable about though, as it recquire, from my perspective , an authoritarian turn to preserve etatism; both can't go without the other in my opinion.
No. Lack of income is already a condition and some other can be applied. I know that it sounds crazy because, in France, it's a crime to think this way (typically for so-called social-justice apologists), but conditional welfare is not something incongruent. RSA also is conditionned, but the conditions are very loosy and inneficient to say the least and many situations are fa vourising cheating strategies.
You could of course give up on most of welfare to get rid of all the thieves you'd find in every steps of welfare, and it would certainyl be much easier, but again, and probably because I got much help fr om the State, I'd rather try to fix it.
I think we're overall on the same page, we may just not draw the line in the same spot. I was just arguing about semantics there, "welfare" always meaning unconditional.
I honestly fail to see how hiring workers for jobs instead of favourising the private sectors shrink the economy.
Because you artificially shrink the market, an example will be easier to understand: say a town has landscaping needs. They either need to hire landscapers as state workers, or sign a contract with a landscaping company. On paper, it should cost the same thing. However, a company must be cost effective to survive and has a strong incentive to ensure their employees and processes are efficient. On the other hand, the state worker's performance is never scrutinized, work is often poorly distributed, there is no result driven incentive either for the employee or management because they will always get the same public money no matter what. Performance is therefore bound to deteriorate on a global level. On top of that, all workers are treated exactly the same way so again no incentive to do better and you will never get fired either (=> performance deteriorates on an individual level too). I may add that when you hire companies, you typically sign contracts that you renegotiate each year, and for which competition will also want to take part in so their services need to be competitive.
Right now Turkey not in 1000 years.
Not before Erdogan burns in hell
OMG SOMEONE WANTS ERDOGAN TO B*RN THANK YOUUUU!!!! I AGREE SOEMONE NEEDS TO KI*L THAT DUDE!!!
If you had to choose between Turkey and Germany you choose Germany? Or both? And if Germany: where? And if Turkey: where? ๐
I wouldnt kiss anyone like to live in both. I think I would liek to live in Germany Dortmund like now and in Turkey Nevsehir, where I also come from.
Nor would I have thought that an autocrat as experienced as Erdogan would be so stupid as to withdraw an obvious presidential candidate from the race on flimsy grounds so shortly before the election.
He probably thought he could do it like Putin or Xi Jinping.
He is not stupid HE IS JUST AN A**H*LE
OMG SOMEONE WANTS ERDOGAN TO B*RN THANK YOUUUU!!!! I AGREE SOEMONE NEEDS TO KI*L THAT DUDE!!!
Please don't say that, you can certainly explain your position but we can't have hate speech. Besides, I'm curious what is it that you hate about him? (not that I like him either)
Please don't say that, you can certainly explain your position but we can't have hate speech. Besides, I'm curious what is it that you hate about him? (not that I like him either)
I found out that with Erdogan that some of my friends from Turkey REALLYYY like him and others NOT AT ALL and almost nobody who is in the middle. In my country and maybe also in Germany and France there are a lot of people who are from Turkey. So it is discussed a lot also in school.
And the same is also for example with Trump about liking or not liking him (and nobody really in the middle). But not Putin bc nobody likes him in our school. It is not the same with other political persons like with them (people do like or dont like them but not in the same way as Erdogan, Trump and Putin).
You can not answer this question easily, because every country has a weakness.
But my favourites are Finland, Canada and Norway.
You are not welcome to my country anymore because you are dangerous guy
You are not welcome to my country anymore because you are dangerous guy
Well said ๐
Turkey barely is in Europe. I dont think that Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia, Albania... are particularly priviledged, and would rather live in Hungary than any of these.
@Lianshen after the Budapest forum i also really would like to go to Hungary!! But as tourist ๐
And in @PinkiePie's interview i also saw that Belarus has super beautiful things to see. But i know that you talk about things like politics and other things. But the country is really beautiful i think and the people super friendly if they are like Stasy. ๐
@Lianshen after the Budapest forum i also really would like to go to Hungary!! But as tourist ๐
And in @PinkiePie's interview i also saw that Belarus has super beautiful things to see. But i know that you talk about things like politics and other things. But the country is really beautiful i think and the people super friendly if they are like Stasy. ๐
Yeap, at least they are friendlier then another CIS citizens
Yeap, at least they are friendlier then another CIS citizens
Can I ask Stasyyy @PinkiePie if you have to live in another European country where would you choose to live? ๐๐
Europe or EU? Its similar but different. Europe as a whole and compared to most of regions in the world, yes, totally, especially Western and Northern Europe, a little bit less for South and East. We have good welfare, have decent healthcare, good access to education, including among the top universities in the world, relatively nice places to live in, be it from cultural perspective, or climate, pollution etc.
Work is probably a little bit nicer too. In France at least, and despite the recent destruction, we have workers rights more than in many other places. Taxes are high and life is expensive , but we also have higher salaries and, like I said before, higher standards of life. Food quality typically is incomparable in France with, let's say, Latin America; same for health access or education. On my part, I was able to go back from far to my studies and got supported by Brittany and the French state; I doubt many people in other countries can do that at all, and I think we are very priviledged for that.
That being said, in some countries like France, you don't really have the right to be proud of being French or of your flag without being labelled as "bad". I honestly saw that only in France and seemingly in Germany; whereas everywhere else, flags and identity was everywhere.
Specifically for EU, we get more advantages, yes, but due to our capital rather than being member of EU. Germany probably got more advantages and still slightly do, but France, Italy, Spain, Portugal or Greece to cite only these countries? Damn, I think we should look at some graphe with euro currency, commercial balance etc., to see that EU is bloodsucking them to the benefit of Germany, mostly.Aditionnally, when it comes to work, cost of life, taxes... EU makes everything worse. Working longer, until 64, 67, maybe 70? EU pushing France to pass the law to get back some of the money France paid to EU (isn't that a joke to be blackmailed to get back your own money?). Electricity costing an arm when you don't depend on gas in France? EU (and Germany) again! Destruction of public services like EDF-GDF and SNCF? EU and its holy "competiton" of course, feeding parasite companies. Taxes getting crazy? Well, EU since you need to pay more for electricity and France is "covering for that"; + crazy printing + throwing away hundred of billions euros to other countries, while not protecting our own economies.
So, while we have many advantages in EU, I'd say that they are mainly because of being European countries with huge capital to start with, because EU is pretty much destroying everything we have. However, when Europeans are complaining for feeling pain, it doesn't make it less important than anywhere else. It can be very painful to see your place getting destroyed by people who hate your nation, and that, I think, is also something some European countries experience more than other countries.
Always the same anti EU and anti german soup disinformation propaganda used and delivered by russian official and unofficial state organizations with the great blessing of american ones now ! Seriously, if you are so honest as you pretend to say to us and if you already had lived and travelled in EU, you would know that Edf ( french electricity society ) got nationalized again by french state 2 years ago ( I m a client of this society ) and that many french people like me benefit from a french state secure tariff ( 0.18 โฌ per consumed Kw from 22:30 pm until 6:30 am and 0.21 โฌ per consumed kw the rest of the day ) which is really much more cheaper compared with the price my german partner is paying now ( 0.40 โฌ per consumed kW) in her country !
Always the same anti EU and anti german soup disinformation propaganda used and delivered by russian official and unofficial state organizations with the great blessing of american ones now ! Seriously, if you are so honest as you pretend to say to us and if you already had lived and travelled in EU, you would know that Edf ( french electricity society ) got nationalized again by french state 2 years ago ( I m a client of this society ) and that many french people like me benefit from a french state secure tariff ( 0.18 โฌ per consumed Kw from 22:30 pm until 6:30 am and 0.21 โฌ per consumed kw the rest of the day ) which is really much more cheaper compared with the price my german partner is paying now ( 0.40 โฌ per consumed kW) in her country !
I wonder why EDF (Electricitรจ Du France) has now been changed to somethibg else....