👶👧🏻 The best age? 👵👴

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⏺️ To get a baby? 👶
Depends on what you mean by "best age".I'd tend to say the younger possible if you consider how exhausting it is to take care of someone else; being 40 for a woman (or worse, 60 for a man) when having a child will be very difficult to manage in my opinion. Imagine, your child ask you to do hiking, bike or any physical activity and you are 70, or even 50; pure pain for everyone.

For social/resource matter, I'd say that, in the West, we commit, too often in my opinion, the mistake consisting in wanting to "be ready" before having a child. I don't believe that you can ever be ready to experience parenthood; it falls on you and then you do your best. I find this excuse too easy too, for you will always find something to say that you are not ready...

⏺️ To be allowed to get your driving licence for a car? 🚗
Honestly, I don't know. 18 sounds ok for me. However I disagree with what you say, @Yue_
I don't think the "young people" who drive cars like crazy in some cities own a driving license or paid for their cars. When you start to pay 2000€ for a driving licence and much more for car + gas, insurances... you strangely become much more careful. The ones who acts like retarded despite paying will not change, young or not, without learning the hard way and yet, it's not always enough.

⏺️ To vote? 📝
I'm not fond of democracy and don't really believe in voting. Rather than age, I would say that it should depends on other factors that would prove citizenship/being attached to their country and being informed enough on the topic they are asked to vote about. I think although the brain still develops for quite a white (around 25years according to some), a well informed 16 years voter would worth more than a 60 years old who "believe that they heard it from..." without being able to tell us why they vote for something.

@Lianshen do you love dictatorships or democracy?

Thank you very much @psysarah15, @Lianshen and @Pennarossa2024 for your posts!! This forum goes so fast it is difficult to keep up! 🙂

@psysarah15 i think we think the same for a baby 25-30 so you can get starting working some years maybe and also be married. Do you know how many children you want to have later? For me it is two children! 🙂

@Lianshen thank you very much for your answers!! I think it is true that you can never be ready to be a parent fully. But it is nice to have work and income so you can take care of the baby. If you are 25-30 you can help children when they are older because you are strong enough from body and you have income and that you can provide in a good way for the child in the future. So maybe that is the best but of course it can depend for everybody.

And the question of @Pennarossa2024 is interesting but i also understand you because sometimes voters say very strange things why they vote but it is not because of what politicians mean and want. But i dont know if that is majority of people that vote or only some that speak for example with a journalist. But it is difficult what the best is. 🙂

@Lianshen do you love dictatorships or democracy?
https://youtu.be/6NTkXIidCU0?si=lyb-ho90wch_VWhe

Democracy has some interesting points, but it also has many flaws. Furthermore, assuming that it is inherently good because it is "democracy" is called dogmatism. Also dictatorship doesn't mean tyranny.

Thank you very much @Sarahsalah27, @Lianshen and @Pennarossa2024 for your posts!! This forum goes so fast it is difficult to keep up! 🙂

@Sarahsalah27 i think we think the same for a baby 25-30 so you can get starting working some years maybe and also be married. Do you know how many children you want to have later? For me it is two children! 🙂

@Lianshen thank you very much for your answers!! I think it is true that you can never be ready to be a parent fully. But it is nice to have work and income so you can take care of the baby. If you are 25-30 you can help children when they are older because you are strong enough from body and you have income and that you can provide in a good way for the child in the future. So maybe that is the best but of course it can depend for everybody.

And the question of @Pennarossa2024 is interesting but i also understand you because sometimes voters say very strange things why they vote but it is not because of what politicians mean and want. But i dont know if that is majority of people that vote or only some that speak for example with a journalist. But it is difficult what the best is. 🙂

Thank you very much @Yue Your words are nice🥰❤🌺, and I am glad that we think the same way.

Regarding the number of children I would like to have in the future, two children as well. 😊🥰

https://youtu.be/6NTkXIidCU0?si=lyb-ho90wch_VWhe

Democracy has some interesting points, but it also has many flaws. Furthermore, assuming that it is inherently good because it is "democracy" is called dogmatism. Also dictatorship doesn't mean tyranny.

Dictatorship Is not tyranny? Do you like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet? Bye bye mister Lianshen.

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Dictatorship Is not tyranny? Do you like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet? Bye bye mister Lianshen.
Dictatorship is the rule by one person or a small group. Tyranny is an oppressive and cruel way of ruling. Not only you can have a dictator that is not a tyrant, but a democracy can very much turns into a tyranny.

Plus don't forget that if you only see democracy vs dictatorship, then most of rulers were dictators, yet, most of them were not tyrants.

Dictatorship is the rule by one person or a small group. Tyranny is an oppressive and cruel way of ruling. Not only you can have a dictator that is not a tyrant, but a democracy can very much turns into a tyranny.

Plus don't forget that if you only see democracy vs dictatorship, then most of rulers were dictators, yet, most of them were not tyrants.

Dictatorship always becomes tyranny. Unfortunately, perfect democracy does not exist even in Western countries that claim to be democratic. But dictatorship and tyranny have done tremendous damage to my family too. Greetings and best wishes Mr. Lianshen

Dictatorship always becomes tyranny. Unfortunately, perfect democracy does not exist even in Western countries that claim to be democratic. But dictatorship and tyranny have done tremendous damage to my family too. Greetings and best wishes Mr. Lianshen
You can say the same thing with democracy: it always becomes to tyranny. I invite you to read me again too, because of us, you are the one who talks about dictatorship and tyranny as the only alternative to democracy.

Again, let me tell you that seeing democracy as inherently good is dogmatic. See you.

Here on penpal gate I have learned one thing: avoid arguing with those who love controversy. The theme of this forum was: the best age. Let's get back to this topic.

Thank you all for your comments and sharing your ideas!! 🙂 I like to think about all the ideas and make an own opinion. But I am curious what people think about the three questions!! They are in the beginning of this forum (the first post), BUTTT you can also make new questions about age!! For example:

4️⃣ At what age should you be able to buy alcohol and cigarettes?

5️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to work?

6️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to retire?


And the earlier questions were what is the best age to:

1️⃣ To get a baby? 👶

2️⃣ To be allowed to get your driving licence for a car? 🚗

3️⃣ To vote? 📝


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For me about the new questions my answers are:

4️⃣ At what age should you be able to buy alcohol and cigarettes?

I think 18. But I hope that one time nobody buys cigarettes anymore. In my country is like slogan that the government wants smoke free generation if that is the correct way to describe it. But that will be very difficult i think.

5️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to work?

We can work in for example a shop when you are 15. And when you are younger you can for example do babysitting or bringing around leaflets from shops. I think it is ok like that but it takes VERY LONG before you can save from babysitting but i understand why you cant work more than that now.

6️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to retire?

In my country it is 67, but you can retire when you want. But it is for the pension i think?? But some parties want a lower age for retirement, but others want a higher age.

Thank you all for your comments and sharing your ideas!! 🙂 I like to think about all the ideas and make an own opinion. But I am curious what people think about the three questions!! They are in the beginning of this forum (the first post), BUTTT you can also make new questions about age!! For example:

4️⃣ At what age should you be able to buy alcohol and cigarettes?

5️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to work?

6️⃣ At what age should you be allowed to retire?


And the earlier questions were what is the best age to:

1️⃣ To get a baby? 👶

2️⃣ To be allowed to get your driving licence for a car? 🚗

3️⃣ To vote? 📝

For 4, i think around 20, for 5, i think a part time job, maybe 16 and a normal job 18-19, and for 6 i‘d say maybe like 55-70? I don’t know, or whenever the person who wants to retire feels like they’re old enough to 🤷‍♀️