What’s your taste in women/men?

objection!!!

I want to give a defense, during these 23 years I have met many people with various backgrounds, personalities, mindsets, races and so on, I have also tried to get close to various kinds of human including boy/man.

But, there is one fact that I found. In fact, by lowering our standards, it would only make us feeling unloved later. By lowering standards, it is the same as lowering the quality of ourselves only to meet more chances like you said. and when I'm not firm, I actually get more tired because there are too many options, and I select it even more extra, not to mention i also meet childish men who just want to play around, or endup met people who have no quality, only have wealth but have no taste in anything and act so foolish.

In fact, I met my love when I was firm with everything, I was honest about what I like, I was honest about what I want, i was honest what i expect in my relationship and at that time he didn't mind. In terms of taste, standards, personality, physical appearance and hobbies, we are the same, moreover he also fits my type.

he's loyal, he also stand for equality (teamwork person), royal, soft spoken, mature, well educated, respectful, smart not only academically (his bachelor GPA 3.7) but also mentally, & socially (he always care to his surroundings, he sacrifice a lot, he loves pet and do street feeding to stray cats, he often does charity, so warm), he's multi-talented (can play various instrumental, can sing, a coffeemaster, can cook, willing to do domestic stuff, a journalist and do voice acting) a whole person, not a manipulative, a problem solver, outgoing, have a cold stare, he dress so well, cool, standing proud of his gf, smell so good, and has cool hairstyle, he's completely my type. and vice versa, i also his type (How do I know? His friend told me). and we are about to enter the fifth year of our relationship which i'm so proud of it!

So my message is, keep your standards, never be afraid of not meeting them, quality over quantity!

let people decide what is best for them without making it seem like their mindset is wrong and ending up lying to themselves just because people say different. always believe in yourself and always believe you'll get everything you wish for! let's keep claiming & giving positive affirmation to our life 💅🏻💃🏻✨

There is a fundamental and biological difference on that level between males and females in the animal kingdom. Quality has never been the most important criterion for the sex that invests the less in reproduction. In other words, you have often 2 well defined sex roles with 1 sex selecting for quality (often females), and the other being selected and trying its go for quantity (mostly likely males).
Why do I mention it here? Because biological differences can change the perception and the outcomes of mating, typically about which sex can be more choosy.

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Now that I have said that; there is also a difference between having standards and having often unrealistic expectations. First, getting a full list to tick without checking what you are bringing in a relationship, and aiming for the top 5% when you are average yourself is not having standards, it's having dreams. Women who want to date a handsome 185+cm who earns 100k+, is smart, masculine yet soft and so on are most likely dreaming the same way men who want to date an actress are definitely dreaming, unless they are themelsves in the top level of people.

Second, and this is what is really lacking nowadays in my opinion, is that people often hide behind "having standards" for not puting an effort in their relationship. "The time a partner doesn't behave the exact way I am, then I got pissed and don't love that partner as much; but I won't do anything to fix it and I won't offer anything" is what I mean, in a stereotypical way again, here. There is a huge lack of compromise and a tendency to forget that a couple is an exchange, hence implies tradeoffs.

On my part, and I join very much what @diogenes_cask said in a nicely brief manner: Had I wait for a woman to tick all my wishes that I would never have gotten a date. Love has always appeared unexpectedly like a gift from the sky for me, when I waited the least for it, and with women whom I would have never expected anything from. It ticks some "stantards", doesn't tick others, but overall, I found my benefits there.

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PS: I would also advice against feeding stray cats because they are already a threat to biodiversity and I cannot expect anything good from it expect instant satisfaction, especially in a country with so many islands (I guess it also makes the taxpayer money being useless since it goes against population control measures that are surely implemented in Indonesia). It's also out of health concern. Generally though, feeding animals is rarely a good idea.

The central theme of this forum thread is legitimate: of course everybody has a certain “taste” if it comes to their future partner. And similarly obvious: this taste can be adjusted or refined over time based on life experiences or whatever may trigger you.

As a pre-teen I already had a minor interest in girls provided that they liked football (more precisely: were cheering for the exact teams that were my favourites), knew every individual character of the Star Wars trilogy (I have lost count with new releases in the past two decades) and did not mind no holds barred participation in any type of martial arts. I have to admit that my taste/preferences/standards (or whatever label may be suitable) have changed subsequently as a teen and again as an adult.

Some may wait for whatever galactical gifts may present themselves unexpectedly: it may work or not at all (I know examples of both). Some may have long and ambitious lists: it may become a perfect match or a total disaster (again: I know examples of both). Others may aim for some core values and interests shared by a future partner: may work and could be useful for relationship longevity.

This is an area where your personal experiences may work well for others or may be a perfect recipe for a car crash. The unsatisfactory and uncomfortable truth may be two words: “it depends”. As regards taste: this is personal (as it should be).

(oh jezus, i think i ordered the wrong topic; this is not what i was lookingfor)

(oh jezus, i think i ordered the wrong topic; this is not what i was lookingfor)

XD

There is a fundamental and biological difference on that level between males and females in the animal kingdom. Quality has never been the most important criterion for the sex that invests the less in reproduction. In other words, you have often 2 well defined sex roles with 1 sex selecting for quality (often females), and the other being selected and trying its go for quantity (mostly likely males).
Why do I mention it here? Because biological differences can change the perception and the outcomes of mating, typically about which sex can be more choosy.

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Now that I have said that; there is also a difference between having standards and having often unrealistic expectations. First, getting a full list to tick without checking what you are bringing in a relationship, and aiming for the top 5% when you are average yourself is not having standards, it's having dreams. Women who want to date a handsome 185+cm who earns 100k+, is smart, masculine yet soft and so on are most likely dreaming the same way men who want to date an actress are definitely dreaming, unless they are themelsves in the top level of people.

Second, and this is what is really lacking nowadays in my opinion, is that people often hide behind "having standards" for not puting an effort in their relationship. "The time a partner doesn't behave the exact way I am, then I got pissed and don't love that partner as much; but I won't do anything to fix it and I won't offer anything" is what I mean, in a stereotypical way again, here. There is a huge lack of compromise and a tendency to forget that a couple is an exchange, hence implies tradeoffs.

On my part, and I join very much what @diogenes_cask said in a nicely brief manner: Had I wait for a woman to tick all my wishes that I would never have gotten a date. Love has always appeared unexpectedly like a gift from the sky for me, when I waited the least for it, and with women whom I would have never expected anything from. It ticks some "stantards", doesn't tick others, but overall, I found my benefits there.

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PS: I would also advice against feeding stray cats because they are already a threat to biodiversity and I cannot expect anything good from it expect instant satisfaction, especially in a country with so many islands (I guess it also makes the taxpayer money being useless since it goes against population control measures that are surely implemented in Indonesia). It's also out of health concern. Generally though, feeding animals is rarely a good idea.

I understand your perspective completely, but ultimately, relationships depend on the couple itself, not on external judgments or generalized theories. Just because someone perceives another as "ordinary" does not mean that person is only entitled to something "ordinary." That logic is inherently flawed. Similarly, labeling someone's desire to date an attractive partner as "delusional" ignores the complexity of human connection and compatibility. and i have some explanation point of why young people nowadays prefer to stay in their standard/type:

1. Relationships are Built on Compatibility, Not Public Perception
In reality, relationships are not as simple as rigid classifications of "deserving" or "not deserving." The foundation of a successful relationship is compatibility of each standards that have given, which is unique to each couple. No external opinion can dictate whether two people are meant for each other. Even if outsiders perceive a couple as mismatched, their compatibility is what truly matters.

2. The Decline of Outdated Stereotypes
As society evolves, so do relationship dynamics. The stereotypes that dictated how men and women should act in relationships are rapidly breaking down. This shift is even more prominent among individuals from broken homes, fatherless backgrounds, or neglectful families. Unlike previous generations, they have witnessed firsthand the consequences of unhealthy relationships and are determined not to repeat those mistakes.

3. Broken Home Individuals are More Selective
For those who grew up without a stable parental figure, relationships are not just about attraction—they are about avoiding past traumas. Research suggests that children from broken homes tend to be more cautious and selective in romantic relationships, prioritizing emotional stability and mutual respect over fleeting attraction. The wounds caused by absent or neglectful parents run deep, making them unwilling to settle for anything that could lead to the same emotional pain.

4. The Rise of Standards: A Necessary Filter, Not Delusion
With the vast amount of information available today, young people are more educated and self-aware about what makes a relationship last. As a result, they create standards not out of arrogance but as a practical filtering mechanism. Listing preferences in bios or first conversations is not about unrealistic expectations—it is about efficiency. Research on modern dating behaviors supports this, highlighting that individuals with clear relationship criteria experience less emotional burnout and make more satisfying long-term commitments.

5. Effort Should be Invested in Certainty, Not Uncertainty
Young people today value their time, energy, and mental well-being. They recognize that blindly investing in something uncertain without clear compatibility is a waste of resources. Instead, many now prefer to reserve deep emotional and financial commitment for relationships that have already proven mutual investment. This mindset is not about entitlement but about making informed, rational decisions in a world where failed relationships can have long-lasting consequences.

Conclusion
The modern dating landscape is no longer dictated by outdated gender roles or rigid expectations. Selectivity is not entitlement—it is wisdom. Compatibility is subjective, and external opinions hold no weight in determining the success of a relationship. As people become more informed and emotionally aware, they reject impulsive decisions and prioritize long-term stability. The shift is not about unrealistic dreaming—it is about understanding what truly leads to lasting, fulfilling relationships.

I understand your perspective completely, but ultimately, relationships depend on the couple itself, not on external judgments or generalized theories. Just because someone perceives another as "ordinary" does not mean that person is only entitled to something "ordinary." That logic is inherently flawed. Similarly, labeling someone's desire to date an attractive partner as "delusional" ignores the complexity of human connection and compatibility. and i have some explanation point of why young people nowadays prefer to stay in their standard/type:

1. Relationships are Built on Compatibility, Not Public Perception
In reality, relationships are not as simple as rigid classifications of "deserving" or "not deserving." The foundation of a successful relationship is compatibility of each standards that have given, which is unique to each couple. No external opinion can dictate whether two people are meant for each other. Even if outsiders perceive a couple as mismatched, their compatibility is what truly matters.

I didn't talk about public perception. A relationship is an exchange, a trade. For a man, it's most often translated in resources, which can be physical, monetary, psychological, intellectual that he can offer to a woman. If you are a man with no resource, then wanting a blond, blue eyed, rich, smart,funny, 20 years old, who likes videogames, who is attentionate... woman. Then you are delusional. Same if you want 50 women through your life in these conditions. There might be one case out of several thousands for which it works, it's not enough to contradict the general tendency, and less to contradict an evolutionary basis of sex roles.

2. The Decline of Outdated Stereotypes
As society evolves, so do relationship dynamics. The stereotypes that dictated how men and women should act in relationships are rapidly breaking down. This shift is even more prominent among individuals from broken homes, fatherless backgrounds, or neglectful families. Unlike previous generations, they have witnessed firsthand the consequences of unhealthy relationships and are determined not to repeat those mistakes.

I would be careful with that statement. It might be different depending on socio-cultural context. In Europe, the traditional mononuclear family has been destroyed and leads to more broken homes, fatherless backgrounds and neglectful families. I am not sure that you can claim that not repeating past mistake is a thing here or that what is replacing it is better.

In Europe specifically, what is being replaced is the Christian conception of couple : monogamy and family stability over, and you are right to point it out, sometimes not so happy individuals. Basically, this leads to the mononuclear family, which typically leads to broken homes and fatherless backgrounds that are on the rise in the West.

What I witness too is that the more the Christian view of couple is broken down, the more the rules that apply to relationships fits the evolutionary defined sex roles, with females becoming more choosy, and a few males to get better mating success whereas a majority don't experience fatherhood.

3. Broken Home Individuals are More Selective
For those who grew up without a stable parental figure, relationships are not just about attraction—they are about avoiding past traumas. Research suggests that children from broken homes tend to be more cautious and selective in romantic relationships, prioritizing emotional stability and mutual respect over fleeting attraction. The wounds caused by absent or neglectful parents run deep, making them unwilling to settle for anything that could lead to the same emotional pain.

The same studies show that children from divorced parents are not willing to enter serious relationships. There are also differences between men and women, with women becoming typically extremely choosy and men lacking of commitment, jumping from a partner to partner.
I think you can even see to what extremes it can leads with the rise of dating apps and the different use men and women have of it.

4. The Rise of Standards: A Necessary Filter, Not Delusion
With the vast amount of information available today, young people are more educated and self-aware about what makes a relationship last. As a result, they create standards not out of arrogance but as a practical filtering mechanism. Listing preferences in bios or first conversations is not about unrealistic expectations—it is about efficiency. Research on modern dating behaviors supports this, highlighting that individuals with clear relationship criteria experience less emotional burnout and make more satisfying long-term commitments.

That should again be regarded within a socio-cultural context. That being said, it's true that people have better access to information, but that is not resulting in better education. Having a lot of informations doesn't mean it's a good information or that you have learnt to deal with conflicts, long term bonds, commitment... It eventually makes people more choosy, but again, is it a pragmatical approach, or just a coping mechanism that is detrimental? and more importantly, isn't it going out of hand?
Reading you, it seems that both having "education" and having divorced parents make individuals super good at building sane relationship. However, children from broken family = more divorces, mentaly less stable than children from mononuclear families, and the younger generation struggle more and more with relationships in the West. There is clearly something off here if being selective and not repeating mistake is so nice.

I think something should be clarified at this point though: Pointing out unrealistic expectations doesn't mean having 0 base values/standards. Just that ticking all the case of a long list, especially when you don't bring as much on the table is digging your own grave.

5. Effort Should be Invested in Certainty, Not Uncertainty
Young people today value their time, energy, and mental well-being. They recognize that blindly investing in something uncertain without clear compatibility is a waste of resources. Instead, many now prefer to reserve deep emotional and financial commitment for relationships that have already proven mutual investment. This mindset is not about entitlement but about making informed, rational decisions in a world where failed relationships can have long-lasting consequences.

Yet the mental well being and energy has never been lower than in younger generations. Valueing your potential relationship and expecting a near perfect partner is very different, and that is what I pointed out first. Sadly, one of the main problem from the few last decades is that people want more and more a perfect partner, but desire less and less to make compromise (both millenials like gen Z are incredible at that).
I don't think the part of preserving resource and preferences applies to every culture or is the same between genders either. For instance, younger men in the West seem, on the contrary, experiencing greater pain than before and there is even an internet phenomenon about it, which shows how little selective they become out of despair, just trying to have a partner.

Conclusion
The modern dating landscape is no longer dictated by outdated gender roles or rigid expectations. Selectivity is not entitlement—it is wisdom. Compatibility is subjective, and external opinions hold no weight in determining the success of a relationship. As people become more informed and emotionally aware, they reject impulsive decisions and prioritize long-term stability. The shift is not about unrealistic dreaming—it is about understanding what truly leads to lasting, fulfilling relationships.

How can you say that the dating landscape is no longer by rigid expectations when you support the said extreme expectations under the label of standards? On the contrary, they become more and more rigids with sometimes stereotyped and evolutionary based expectations (the exemple of man's height being both extreme and hilarious). Selectivity is wisdom, yes, but extreme selectivity seems to be rather madness, and what I point out when someone has a list of expectations to tick before finding anyone is precisely extreme-selectivity. The thing here is to make a difference between having a base value and dreaming. Like I said, a relationship is pretty much a trade between 2 individuals. If one can't bring as much as what one asks, then the selectivity is too high.

I am not sure either that you can claim that all of this leads to healthier and happier/more meaningful relationship where, in the West, half of the mariages end up into divorces and where promiscuity as well as pain in dating has never been so great, with men being desperate to the point to have no standard anymore, and both men and women being desperate not to find any men who suits all their expectations, and now experiencing something coined as "dating fatigue". Are you really sure, especially when people are "emotionally burnt out looking for the one" is not the result of extreme and unsane selectivity?

I generally like women with a cute body and cute behaviour

And being passionate about something makes someone interesting to me, in general, not just in a romantic context

Edit: just some additions I thought of

I don’t have a lot of dating experience, mostly teen-crushes

So I don’t really have a preference for personality

My needs for a romantic relationship probably also mix a lot with my needs for pure friendships

i rather say:

a beautyfull young girl, maybe the same age as me but rather a bit younger. For the rest i not yet care about her character.

I didn't talk about public perception. A relationship is an exchange, a trade. For a man, it's most often translated in resources, which can be physical, monetary, psychological, intellectual that he can offer to a woman. If you are a man with no resource, then wanting a blond, blue eyed, rich, smart,funny, 20 years old, who likes videogames, who is attentionate... woman. Then you are delusional. Same if you want 50 women through your life in these conditions. There might be one case out of several thousands for which it works, it's not enough to contradict the general tendency, and less to contradict an evolutionary basis of sex roles.

I would be careful with that statement. It might be different depending on socio-cultural context. In Europe, the traditional mononuclear family has been destroyed and leads to more broken homes, fatherless backgrounds and neglectful families. I am not sure that you can claim that not repeating past mistake is a thing here or that what is replacing it is better.

In Europe specifically, what is being replaced is the Christian conception of couple : monogamy and family stability over, and you are right to point it out, sometimes not so happy individuals. Basically, this leads to the mononuclear family, which typically leads to broken homes and fatherless backgrounds that are on the rise in the West.

What I witness too is that the more the Christian view of couple is broken down, the more the rules that apply to relationships fits the evolutionary defined sex roles, with females becoming more choosy, and a few males to get better mating success whereas a majority don't experience fatherhood.

The same studies show that children from divorced parents are not willing to enter serious relationships. There are also differences between men and women, with women becoming typically extremely choosy and men lacking of commitment, jumping from a partner to partner.
I think you can even see to what extremes it can leads with the rise of dating apps and the different use men and women have of it.

That should again be regarded within a socio-cultural context. That being said, it's true that people have better access to information, but that is not resulting in better education. Having a lot of informations doesn't mean it's a good information or that you have learnt to deal with conflicts, long term bonds, commitment... It eventually makes people more choosy, but again, is it a pragmatical approach, or just a coping mechanism that is detrimental? and more importantly, isn't it going out of hand?
Reading you, it seems that both having "education" and having divorced parents make individuals super good at building sane relationship. However, children from broken family = more divorces, mentaly less stable than children from mononuclear families, and the younger generation struggle more and more with relationships in the West. There is clearly something off here if being selective and not repeating mistake is so nice.

I think something should be clarified at this point though: Pointing out unrealistic expectations doesn't mean having 0 base values/standards. Just that ticking all the case of a long list, especially when you don't bring as much on the table is digging your own grave.

Yet the mental well being and energy has never been lower than in younger generations. Valueing your potential relationship and expecting a near perfect partner is very different, and that is what I pointed out first. Sadly, one of the main problem from the few last decades is that people want more and more a perfect partner, but desire less and less to make compromise (both millenials like gen Z are incredible at that).
I don't think the part of preserving resource and preferences applies to every culture or is the same between genders either. For instance, younger men in the West seem, on the contrary, experiencing greater pain than before and there is even an internet phenomenon about it, which shows how little selective they become out of despair, just trying to have a partner.

How can you say that the dating landscape is no longer by rigid expectations when you support the said extreme expectations under the label of standards? On the contrary, they become more and more rigids with sometimes stereotyped and evolutionary based expectations (the exemple of man's height being both extreme and hilarious). Selectivity is wisdom, yes, but extreme selectivity seems to be rather madness, and what I point out when someone has a list of expectations to tick before finding anyone is precisely extreme-selectivity. The thing here is to make a difference between having a base value and dreaming. Like I said, a relationship is pretty much a trade between 2 individuals. If one can't bring as much as what one asks, then the selectivity is too high.

I am not sure either that you can claim that all of this leads to healthier and happier/more meaningful relationship where, in the West, half of the mariages end up into divorces and where promiscuity as well as pain in dating has never been so great, with men being desperate to the point to have no standard anymore, and both men and women being desperate not to find any men who suits all their expectations, and now experiencing something coined as "dating fatigue". Are you really sure, especially when people are "emotionally burnt out looking for the one" is not the result of extreme and unsane selectivity?

You say relationships are a trade—an exchange of value. If that’s the case, then people have every right to set standards and be selective, just as any rational trader would in any exchange. Calling high standards "delusional" contradicts your own point: in a trade, people naturally seek the best deal they can get. There is no right or wrong in a relationship, if both agree, what can you do? and If someone endup isn't bringing enough value to match their expectations, and endup won’t get what they want—but that’s their problem, not yours. Life will sort it out. everyone deserve to learn, to experience, need to walk the path they believe in without being disturbed by parties who don't even know their future but yapping and judge as they are fortune teller who know their destiny would be.

You also argue that modern dating is failing, yet you acknowledge that men without standards are miserable. If extreme selectivity is madness, then extreme desperation is even worse. Which is it? Should people lower their standards and settle for anything, or should they value themselves and filter out bad matches? Because your argument contradicts itself. I am an example of a person who has successfully filtered by adjusting the needs based on knowing myself, is that the case with me and people who really know what is the best for them are delusional? many of them succeed in relationships by being true to themselves about what they like, they want, they offer and etc. look what the reality, get out of your bubble, take good example, and if you can be better, be better.

And finally, you claim that the breakdown of old relationship norms is bad, but then admit that modern dating is shifting back to evolutionary roles. So, if people are just returning to biological instincts, why waste time complaining? You’re just describing a natural correction—one where men and women are simply adapting to the new world. Adapt or get left behind.

Bottom line: No one is obligated to accept less than what they want just because someone else finds their standards inconvenient. If the "market" proves them wrong, they’ll deal with the consequences themselves. But what’s certain is that whining about people’s choices won’t change the fact that everyone is free to choose.

Now, are we done? people here have right to decide what best for them without being bother by people who even didn't know what best for them and how is their future will be but to judge, to yap, to bother. calling other delusional for having standard only showing that you actually pessimist & smartass over things that you even didn't know. so are you done playing fortune-teller? Well, if you haven't yet, you can give to everyone who answers in this forum about their future predictions, who knows, your career as a fortune teller will explode and brings lot of money for u 😬

You say relationships are a trade—an exchange of value. If that’s the case, then people have every right to set standards and be selective, just as any rational trader would in any exchange. Calling high standards "delusional" contradicts your own point: in a trade, people naturally seek the best deal they can get. There is no right or wrong in a relationship, if both agree, what can you do? and If someone endup isn't bringing enough value to match their expectations, and endup won’t get what they want—but that’s their problem, not yours. Life will sort it out. everyone deserve to learn, to experience, need to walk the path they believe in without being disturbed by parties who don't even know their future but yapping and judge as they are fortune teller who know their destiny would be.

If it is an exchange, you can of course set the standards you want, but like the vast majority wouldn't accept $50 in exchange of their house, most people will not accept someone they consider as not as valuable as them in a relationship. To be very cliché, there is no reason for a very beautiful woman to go with a man who has 0 resource of any form, like money, intelligence, creativity, funny, good looking etc. because she will have enough choice to pic a "better" man.
In other words, you better not aim something out of your league, unless you want to struggle. So, yes, if you still aim for something you can't "pay" for, then I call that being delusional, and, no, this is not a contradiction with trying to get the best you can get. You can try to afford the best you can within your budget, or, in a relationship, within what you can offer in exchange for what you ask.

I don't get why you are bringing the topic on what I want or not. I don't care of what people are doing, neither do I judge, I only mention that struggle can emerge from certain behaviours.

You also argue that modern dating is failing, yet you acknowledge that men without standards are miserable. If extreme selectivity is madness, then extreme desperation is even worse. Which is it? Should people lower their standards and settle for anything, or should they value themselves and filter out bad matches? Because your argument contradicts itself. I am an example of a person who has successfully filtered by adjusting the needs based on knowing myself, is that the case with me and people who really know what is the best for them are delusional? many of them succeed in relationships by being true to themselves about what they like, they want, they offer and etc. look what the reality, get out of your bubble, take good example, and if you can be better, be better.

There is a misunderstanding here. What I said about some men is that they abandon their standards because they already are miserable in dating. It typically arise because they might look too much on internet and have the impression that women ask for everything without giving anything in return (be it true or not). If you want a translation,t hat could be the feeling that women want a handsome, rich, tall, creative, soft yet masculine man etc. while that woman is average looking and can't cook an egg. This vision is exacerbated by dating apps, so they give up on anything because of the belief that no relationship is worse than a any random relationship.

I don't say anything about how extreme desperation is better or worse, only that it is induced by extreme selectivity and, again, there is no contradiction here if you take in consideration the "extreme" before selectivity. The fact that it worked out for you also isn't representative of anything. Your case is not generalisable either. There are multiple factors that could explain your so called success, among which: you are lucky and you get a survivor bias; you match the values you ask for; your definitions are different from others; you didn't tick all these boxes and you only realized stuff later etc. there are many alternative hypotheses.

And finally, you claim that the breakdown of old relationship norms is bad, but then admit that modern dating is shifting back to evolutionary roles. So, if people are just returning to biological instincts, why waste time complaining? You’re just describing a natural correction—one where men and women are simply adapting to the new world. Adapt or get left behind.

No, I exposed a case in which there are benefits that seem to be lost in the process and in Western societies. That is very different. I also didn't say anything about how good or bad is the evolutionary sex roles; and I don't think I should emit any value judgement on, basically, a mating and social system.
Please, refrain from bringing "natural correction" in the debate. In Nature, infanticide and rape is frequent. I don't think you would like to see men killing your boyfriend and children just to make you available as a partner. Evolution also doesn't work on "adapting" to the new world and being left behind, unless you are suggesting an eugenistic viewpoint for which we should stop feeding some ethnicities that struggle, keep it up with colonization and abandon disabled people. Be careful with what your words suggest because Nature like Evolution are very slippery topics.

Bottom line: No one is obligated to accept less than what they want just because someone else finds their standards inconvenient. If the "market" proves them wrong, they’ll deal with the consequences themselves. But what’s certain is that whining about people’s choices won’t change the fact that everyone is free to choose.

Yes, and that was not what I talked about. People do whatever they want; again, I agree, but you seem to take it very personally. Take a step back and read my comment again - It's not about finding so called high standards inconvenient for me - it has no effect on my life, it's about how delusional they can be and how they could potentially bring them to greater pain. Of course, it can work for many people, especially women if we gets closer to evolutionary sex roles (in which the sex that invest most is the choosy one, and the sex that invest less competes and monopolize whenever they can), but that doesn't mean that it is desirable as a society or whatsoever: it all depends on the values you want in a society.

Here, you suggest that people should try and deal with the consequences themselves, that's like reinventing the wheel instead of taking act of what is happening/happened; isn't it here a contradiction?

Else, you didn't answer my question:

Are you really sure, especially when people are "emotionally burnt out looking for the one", that it is not the result of extreme and unsane selectivity?

Thinking out of box, having empathy, interest in music, preferably alternative (metal, punk, alternative, neoclassical/darkwave, industrial...) and love for traveling. Rest i dont care much, physical look including.

i have a very specific type but i don't always respect it

My perfect woman should be under 160 cm, huge melons, caffellatte skin, almond eyes, very hot...
Oh, lucky me! She's my wife 🤣

Melons? 🍉

yes, melons, watermelons, coconuts, soccer balls, basket balls, but tennis or baseball balls, please!

height difference, my girlfriend is 5 feet tall and im 6 feet 4 inches. i mean really everything about her is my preference in women, if im in a relationship i can't see anything else being attractive apart from my partner.

yes, melons, watermelons, coconuts, soccer balls, basket balls, but tennis or baseball balls, please!

Unsympathetic reply.

Alt/goth girls, do whatever you want with me 😭🙏🙏

Alt/goth girls, do whatever you want with me 😭🙏🙏

I wish i was a lesbian just for them