🇺🇳🙄 Happiest countries 😃🌍

Hello everybody!! 🙋‍♀️ In one of Fleurke's forum i posted about the happiest countries in 2025 but i cant find it back. 🙄🙄 This is the top 20 list from the happiest countries report:

1. Finland

2. Denmark

3. Iceland

4. Sweden

5. Netherlands

6. Costa Rica

7. Norway

8. Israel

9. Luxembourg

10. Mexico

11. Australia

12. New Zealand

13. Switzerland

14. Belgium

15. Ireland

16. Lithuania

17. Austria

18. Canada

19. Slovenia

20. Czech Republic

The top 4 are ALL Scandanavian countries!!! 🏆🥇🥈🥉🏅 Maybe nice to know for @Roseeeee, @Annika2007, @Borboletagirl and @jiijii04.

I googled about the news and found this: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/worlds-happiest-countries-2025-wellness/index.html

Can I ask to people who would like to react about it:

1️⃣ What would for YOU be the 2 or 3 most happy countries to live?

2️⃣ Do you think your country should be higher or lower on the list? I googled "full countries list" of the report and i found this: https://www.timeout.com/news/world-happiness-report-the-full-list-of-countries-for-2025-032025

3️⃣ Do you think that the list is important or not?

4️⃣ What are for YOU the most important topics to feel happy?

5️⃣ What do you do about A LOTTT of sad or scary news (like wars, everything getting super expensive and other things that you are afraid about)? Do you feel super stressed about it or not so much?

Thank you very much for everybody who would like to post about what they think. 🙏🙏

PS: This forum is for EVERYONE AND ANYBODY CAN REPLY THE QUESTIONS!!!! But I just tag some friends who gave permission to just let them know about this new forum (if you want to be on the list just let me know 🙂 ): @Simone724, @Etienne, @Sarahsalah27, @Esma-Nur, @Annika2007, @Emmiiii_17_11, @Miss_Penpal, @NILU1234, @Sabri_KC, @elizabethtay836, @martutuni, @Roseeeee, @-Kiki-, @Txya, @Lianshen, @LandRoverDiscovery2 ⬅️❤️💚💙💜🤗🤗

In my opinion 🇵🇱,🇭🇺 and 🇨🇭 are the happiest ones.

Mine is unhappy.

Yeah I think a bunch of these are highly controversial haha

Sweden ain’t happy trust me

Well, depends how exactly they measure it.

I would not be happy in any Scandinavian country, with all my respect, because I need more sunny days 😅 But people there seems to live differently, have just less stress I think, because of better financial condition, and what I saw in Norway, they are crazy about walking, jogging. They have good health care, I think? Maybe they don't even care as much about geopolitical stuff, like we in Europe do.

I don't know, just my thoughts.

Considering widespread discontent across the globe, this may be the list of the 20 “least unhappy countries” in the world.

On a more serious note, I am curious to find out how these results were generated (e.g. which benchmarks were used to measure “happiness” in any given state).

My coffee is finished. Time to be unhappy again!

Considering widespread discontent across the globe, this may be the list of the 20 “least unhappy countries” in the world.

On a more serious note, I am curious to find out how these results were generated (e.g. which benchmarks were used to measure “happiness” in any given state).

My coffee is finished. Time to be unhappy again!

Oh, that's an interesting one; how do you measure happiness? @Yue_ I think the Netherlands should be more below than this. I don't think we're a happy country, or maybe like part of it is very happy and the rest is depressed and anxious or sm.

Okay, I asked Grok (twitter "AI"), how it works.

Okay, now for me, it's not too much reliable.

Why? Because of I would get such question, to rate my life on scale 0-10, I would probably think in the manner: "Oh, well, comparing to some countries, I have really high standard of life. I give 6-7" let's say.

And then there are factors like financial security, health care, that for sure have influence for our happiness, but its too easy to objectively rate it.

So, my answer would be taken as happy, but in real, I don't feel happy, when it comes to other apects of life, that are hard to verify and check on such scale.

Okay, I asked Grok (twitter "AI"), how it works.

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Okay, now for me, it's not too much reliable.

Why? Because of I would get such question, to rate my life on scale 0-10, I would probably think in the manner: "Oh, well, comparing to some countries, I have really high standard of life. I give 6-7" let's say.

And then there are factors like financial security, health care, that for sure have influence for our happiness, but its too easy to objectively rate it.

So, my answer would be taken as happy, but in real, I don't feel happy, when it comes to other apects of life, that are hard to verify and check on such scale.

I think such scales aren't reliable as well. It's all subjective and you can't base a whole level of hapiness on it. It also varies per day and if you're feeling bad on the time you're doing the questionnaire, you're more likely to put negative answers on them, regardless of your usual state of hapiness. I think it's not reliable enough, but how DO you measure hapiness? Does everyone have the same defenition of hapiness? That's where it starts!

Okay, I asked Grok (twitter "AI"), how it works.

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Okay, now for me, it's not too much reliable.

Why? Because of I would get such question, to rate my life on scale 0-10, I would probably think in the manner: "Oh, well, comparing to some countries, I have really high standard of life. I give 6-7" let's say.

And then there are factors like financial security, health care, that for sure have influence for our happiness, but its too easy to objectively rate it.

So, my answer would be taken as happy, but in real, I don't feel happy, when it comes to other apects of life, that are hard to verify and check on such scale.

These factors mentioned by Grok, doesn't make one happy but socially "secure". Happiness isn't a static, permanent state of mind and affected by numerious outer and inner factors. You can't be happy unless you're unhappy sometimes. So are those countries unhappiest sometimes?

I think what people said above is right to doubt the list. And i think that some things may be important for some people but not for other people. So i think maybe you cant really have a list for the WHOLE world. But maybe you can only have a list for EVERY person. And nobody is the same. 🙄🙄

But the list i think does say something and maybe what @diogenes_cask said is true about secure. BUTTT i think for example in my country a LOTTT of people dont feel secure and people are worried a lot. For example about war and if you can get a house after you study and about safety in different ways. So even that is difficult to put clearly on a list.

These factors mentioned by Grok, doesn't make one happy but socially "secure". Happiness isn't a static, permanent state of mind and affected by numerious outer and inner factors. You can't be happy unless you're unhappy sometimes. So are those countries unhappiest sometimes?

Most people consider people who are socially secure happy. But you're right about hapiness being a state of mind. Even if you have everyhing you could be unhappy, but I bet that isn't calculated for.

These factors mentioned by Grok, doesn't make one happy but socially "secure". Happiness isn't a static, permanent state of mind and affected by numerious outer and inner factors. You can't be happy unless you're unhappy sometimes. So are those countries unhappiest sometimes?

I guess, but I'd argue that a sense of security is a requirement for happiness. Also, I feel like the general direction your country is going in plays a huge part in this: I would imagine people are less likely to be happy in a very prosperous country slowly going downhill than a poorer country rapidly developing (I'm not sure these countries trusting the top of the list have experienced great improvements lately)

I guess, but I'd argue that a sense of security is a requirement for happiness. Also, I feel like the general direction your country is going in plays a huge part in this: I would imagine people are less likely to be happy in a very prosperous country slowly going downhill than a poorer country rapidly developing (I'm not sure these countries trusting the top of the list have experienced great improvements lately)

Rational argument, but yet I do think that "social wellness" is a term created for urban fishes like us, living in cultural aquariums. The concept of happiness, which has a different definition for each discipline, is not a structure with a single component. When the concept of happiness is evaluated within disciplines such as psychology, sociology, and economics, it is seen that it is a superstructure that includes concepts such as well-being, subjective well-being, life satisfaction, life satiety, and quality of life. Happiness is an emotion that is as old as human history and is constantly updated with the changes and transformations that humanity experiences. Today, it is not only the subject of philosophy discipline but also the subject of many disciplines such as neurology, psychology, sociology, economics. Therefore, happiness is accepted as a superordinate concept that includes many concepts such as well-being, subjective well-being, life satisfaction and is evaluated within the rules of each discipline.

Although happiness is considered a goal for human beings according to ancient and modern perspectives, the two ideas have different centers. According to ancient understanding, happiness is a measure of moral behavior, while according to modern understanding, it is seen as psychological states aimed at the satisfaction of the individual, which have nothing to do with morality. It is certain that happiness, which has taken on new forms along with rapidly changing living conditions as a result of technological developments, will go through unimaginable stages of change in the future.

We can't claim that the bushmen or tribal men are unhappier than us by leaning on the datas dictated by disciples of sociology and economics. This type of happiness would be handicapped one after all.

Sorry for interrupting the discussion but i have one question for @Miss_Penpal. My neighbours really like Canada 🇨🇦 a LOTTT and they say that it is a very beautiful country and people they met are looking happy and not worried a lot. Do you think most people in Canada like their country or is it different than what a lot of people maybe think of your country being happy? 🙂

I dont want to interrupt the discussion above and you can of course continue it, but i just wanted to ask the question to @Miss_Penpal or other people from Canada who read this forum. 😊😊

I am only sad in the dark wintertimes! But is springtime and I am very lucky! Greetings from my sunny balcony😎 and I din‘t believe in statistics🤣 For me luck is a personal feeling! It has nothing to do with countries😃

That is really nice @Piwipete!! 🙂 FOr me in the winter I am not sad normally but FROZENNN!!!! ❄️❄️🥶🥶🧊🧊 And i think you are right that for every person it can be different EVEN if you are in the same country or city and maybe EVEN if a lot of other things are the same. Still it can be very different if you are happy or not. 🙂

Sorry for interrupting the discussion but i have one question for @Miss_Penpal. My neighbours really like Canada 🇨🇦 a LOTTT and they say that it is a very beautiful country and people they met are looking happy and not worried a lot. Do you think most people in Canada like their country or is it different than what a lot of people maybe think of your country being happy? 🙂

I dont want to interrupt the discussion above and you can of course continue it, but i just wanted to ask the question to @Miss_Penpal or other people from Canada who read this forum. 😊😊

In general people live in places they like to live in, so I guess people in Canada like their country. I am personally neutral, I don't adore it but I don't hate it either.