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Musk is intervening in European politics to support right-wing parties. Unfortunately, he does not know European history and risks causing serious damage. This is very serious because he will have an important role in the new US government.

There was no outrage when George Soros spent hundreds of millions of euros in the last few years to support left wing initiatives. Obsessing over "European history" is exactly what is killing us. Of course it isn't great news that we need third party intervention to fix our own countries. But if it is what it takes to hopefully reach some light at the end of the tunnel, so be it. Choose which to die first: Leftism or Europe. I've made my choice

I've read an interesting experts comments, that there are only two powerful institutions in the world who can regulate X or Meta: The US Government and European EU commission with their new tool for digital regulation like AI.

As the US is off or under control by Musik the EU is the enemy right now.

Here's another Expert Comment™ you might be interested in: the EU is a fascist organization whose leaders never got elected by the people, which obsesses over censorship and control of information, takes no accountability in regards to anything including economic results, and works against the interests and will of its people. The EU produces absolutely nothing good aside from countless regulations that are literally killing initiatives and free will.

I'm not even anti EU on paper. But its current state is an abomination.

There was no outrage when George Soros spent hundreds of millions of euros in the last few years to support left wing initiatives. Obsessing over "European history" is exactly what is killing us. Of course it isn't great news that we need third party intervention to fix our own countries. But if it is what it takes to hopefully reach some light at the end of the tunnel, so be it. Choose which to die first: Leftism or Europe. I've made my choice

Here's another Expert Comment™ you might be interested in: the EU is a fascist organization whose leaders never got elected by the people, which obsesses over censorship and control of information, takes no accountability in regards to anything including economic results, and works against the interests and will of its people. The EU produces absolutely nothing good aside from countless regulations that are literally killing initiatives and free will.

I'm not even anti EU on paper. But its current state is an abomination.

Right. I don't like Soros and I don't like Musk. I don't like the European left and the European right. And I don't like the neo-Nazi right. Our history is not an obsession. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Ceausescu are not an obsession. They are a tragedy that can be repeated because we Europeans do not know our history.

You talk about censorship. The big problem is different: We dont talk about the personal meanings of private people, the problems are bots or "armys" who use social media for manipulating mentions in bigger style. Since people like Trump, Putin and so on it has another dimension.

AfD and Co. are spreading Fake informations with targeting young people to let them think in their interests. This is dangerous. we dont talk about mentions from people who dont like politician xy

Right. I don't like Soros and I don't like Musk. I don't like the European left and the European right. And I don't like the neo-Nazi right. Our history is not an obsession. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Ceausescu are not an obsession. They are a tragedy that can be repeated because we Europeans do not know our history.

I sincerely highly doubt there is such a thing as neo nazi right in 2025. Freedom of speech or reducing immigration is not far right. Anyone who thinks it is is either dishonest or delusional. How many trucks ramming into people does it need for people to maybe start questioning their assumptions? Besides, Hitler is far right (culturally speaking) just as much as he is far left (economically speaking). He rose to power because of his antisemitic views, in no correlation to the issues we currently suffer from.

You talk about censorship. The big problem is different: We dont talk about the personal meanings of private people, the problems are bots or "armys" who use social media for manipulating mentions in bigger style. Since people like Trump, Putin and so on it has another dimension.

AfD and Co. are spreading Fake informations with targeting young people to let them think in their interests. This is dangerous. we dont talk about mentions from people who dont like politician xy

I strongly suggest you watch (if you haven't already) Zuckerberg's latest announcement video that came out a couple of days ago: https://www.instagram.com/zuck/reel/DEhf2uTJUs0/

He speaks out about government overreach, fact checking bias, and officially controlled narratives. He also admitted some time ago that the so called Russian propaganda that occurred in previous elections was... actually orchestrated by the FBI itself. I'm not sure Zuck can be considered a far right nutjob.

Off topic but still somewhat related: who tried to cover up the grooming gangs in the UK? Was it the evil far right?

Photos of Italian neo-fascists taken in recent years. There is a European neo-fascist and neo-Nazi right. I had opened this discussion on Musk. Instead it turned into a discussion on other topics. So this discussion does not interest me anymore. I realized that it is better to open a discussion on Pokémon or favorite colors or Mickey Mouse. Greetings to all

📸️ 📸️ Photos of Italian neo-fascists taken in recent years. There is a European neo-fascist and neo-Nazi right. I had opened this discussion on Musk. Instead it turned into a discussion on other topics. So this discussion does not interest me anymore. I realized that it is better to open a discussion on Pokémon or favorite colors or Mickey Mouse. Greetings to all

I like mickey mousse

I like mickey mousse

Lui è molto intelligente

📸️ 📸️ Photos of Italian neo-fascists taken in recent years. There is a European neo-fascist and neo-Nazi right. I had opened this discussion on Musk. Instead it turned into a discussion on other topics. So this discussion does not interest me anymore. I realized that it is better to open a discussion on Pokémon or favorite colors or Mickey Mouse. Greetings to all

In my opinion its not offtopic. Musk, social media and influence to politics.

📸️ 📸️ Photos of Italian neo-fascists taken in recent years. There is a European neo-fascist and neo-Nazi right.

I meant recognized neo nazi organization/party. Of course you will always find individuals who identify as such, out of hundreds of millions of people. We all know these people are irrelevant in the actual political spectrum. But sure, we can talk about Mickey Mouse instead

Hi to everyone here and I wish you all to spend a very nice week end ! Well, concerning Mr Musk, many people of world car Industry for which I m working for undirectly , think that this real genius should rather deal with its own businesses, I mean Tesla and X rather than doing politics or discussing in Germany about the existence of God or the fact to know if Adolf Hitler was a real socialist and communist with Alice Weidel the leader of German extreme right wing party ! 🤣

We know now the world s selling cars results of Tesla in 2024 and for the first time in 5 years, Musk s society used to know a fall of its world s cars sellings of 4% : Cyber truck and X models do not work , Model S does not sell any more and 3 and Y models are declining and Tesla must know face to a real strong concurrence of chinese car makers like BYD and Xiaomi !

In the Eu, the European commission is now studying about the forbidding of X because of all the agressive comments of Mr Musk against some european political leaders which would be very benefit for Tik Tok social network !

i totally dislike elon musk.

Translated from a News Site today:


"The "wall of evidence", a kind of public showcase of all successes on the DOGE website, is supposed to prove how much money Musk and his team have saved the taxpayer so far: allegedly 65 billion dollars. Unfortunately, according to the New York Times, Musk has had to quietly and secretly delete his five biggest successes to date, without any explanation or comment.


For example, an alleged saving of 8 billion dollars at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency ICE. As it turned out, however, the canceled contract was only worth a mere 8 million dollars. Apparently, the error was due to an incorrect entry in the underlying database. However, you could have noticed that something was wrong: The entire budget of the ICE authority is 8 billion dollars.


Even more embarrassing was what happened with three alleged savings of 655 million dollars in the US development aid agency USAID: they were counted three times, although it was always one and the same cut. Moreover, the savings are not nearly as high because Musk's data researchers simply recorded the contract's upper limit instead of the actual expenditure incurred. DOGE now reports the cuts at just 18 million dollars in total. The same applies to the reduction of a contract with an IT service provider in the social security system: here, the alleged savings of 232 million dollars amounted to just 560,000 dollars."

Yep, that's right, they made some mistakes. Before DOGE even started, they did say there was so much to do that they were bound to make mistakes that would need to be addressed.

Articles that only focus on rare negative aspects when so much has been done already truly is the height of bad faith. It reminds me of media outlets crafting sensational headlines like "SpaceX in turmoil as rocket explodes dramatically, setting the sky ablaze" when in reality it was just a planned test with a known 30% chance of success. Meanwhile the company has single handedly revolutionized space technology in just a few of years.

If you are interested in the big picture with DOGE, here is some actual first hand information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFNfUPZXskU

There is literally zero reason for anyone to be against tackling fraud and waste, or even to criticize the initiative. It is a transpartisan issue that should unite everyone, regardless of political beliefs. If somebody objects to investigating waste, they're either profiting from it, or acting in bad faith. Moreover, contrary to what some people may think, none of these cuts affect humanitarian aid or similar programs.

This is correct - but with SpaceX in another context.

The problem with Musk is, that he tells everyone in media how successful and unbelievable successful great genius he is. Instead of telling "We have a consequent learning process in rocket development in small and bigger steps but need to find out if everything will work as planned" he acts like "Look financial investors: Its only a question of time until my rockets will reach Moon and Mars and we are about to reach it until 202x (the last figure changes yearly and depends on the pressure and questions financial investors asks).
Thats the big difference why media tries to bully him: Because he's a braggart who deliberately spins things so that they sound great.

Whether it's Hyper Loop (read what happened to it in Las Vegas) or alleged Level 4 vehicles (the videos are demonstrably edited together and that's why the media always jump on burning Teslas and fatal accidents in which a Tesla was involved).

The same can now be seen with DOGE: What Biden has already recognized (and has already initiated in some areas) Musk now thinks he has to bulldoze and is then more and more often embarrassingly whistled back because he employs completely inexperienced, young people in their 20s to do so.

And: The wording "increasing efficency" is used because population might see it as an advantage (especially for everyone who had arguments with federal institutions) but in fact Trump wants to get rid of personal who could act against his interest. The shocking fact is that in 1933 this happened in the same speed. The working councils will be the next victim in this logic. Remember: Trump is quite impressed about people like Xi Jingping and Putin how easily they can push through their decisions without any significant resistance.

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Musk is a fElon. 🙂)

Most of what you claim is either objectively false or at best dubious, but whatever.

Thats the big difference why media tries to bully him: Because he's a braggart who deliberately spins things so that they sound great.

The media tries to bully him because he used to be a Democrat and has switched to Republican. It's as simple as that. If you don't embrace the Left, you are considered an enemy, no matter what you say or do. There is no cure or redemption, and this pattern has only reinforced in the recent years.

Musk is a fElon. 🙂)

Thank you (and other one liner authors) for your insightful contributions.

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Thank you (and other one liner authors) for your insightful contributions.


Musk doesn't deserve two lines of commentary. Anyone who follows the recent news knows how he is destroying the American government. Thank you for your "compliment". 🙁