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Agreed
The funny thing is: The (future) government of Donald Trump is füll of people who belongs to the elite of American society with Billionairs. And the citizens doesnt interest it, because the only thing they care about is: How much money do I have left at the end of the month.
The funny thing is: The (future) government of Donald Trump is füll of people who belongs to the elite of American society with Billionairs. And the citizens doesnt interest it, because the only thing they care about is: How much money do I have left at the end of the month.
What else are they supposed to think about?
They are forced to think that.
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The irony being that this lower class you speak of are the ones who suffer the most from this so called culture war. More immigration = lower wagers for unskilled workers because of increased competition. DEI = discrimination against employee skills. More regulations = stifled economy growth, which in turn leads to poorer population.
This meme only calls for emotions - no one likes being lied to - but realistically makes no sense. Besides, Marx is very much not the true altruistic mind people think he was.
Marx is very much not the true altruistic mind people think he was.
I cant find a post where there is a combination, relation of Marx and Musk.
Being against a fascist like Musk and being against Musk buying his way into the American government (out of greed and lust for power) doesn't mean you're Marxist, Communist, Socialist or anything else, it just means you're Democratic.
https://internationalviewpoint.org/IMG/pdf/elon-musk-goes-full-fascist_a8790-2.pdf
I cant find a post where there is a combination, relation of Marx and Musk.
Being against a fascist like Musk and being against Musk buying his way into the American government (out of greed and lust for power) doesn't mean you're Marxist, Communist, Socialist or anything else, it just means you're Democratic.
https://internationalviewpoint.org/IMG/pdf/elon-musk-goes-full-fascist_a8790-2.pdf
Saying immigration should be controlled doesn't make you a fascist. If you think it does, you are purposefully deluting the meaning of words into nothingness, which is a well established authoritarian method - refer to 1984.
I was referring to Marx because the meme shared above was a direct reference to it: boiling societal issues down to sole class struggle.
Reducing Marx to class struggle is very superficial. In the post you are referring to, there is no reference to Marx but to class struggle. Even before Marx, Machiavelli had already discovered the potential for conflict between the nobility and the bourgeoisie. And if it is enough, as in the case of Musk, that money is the only qualification to go into politics, then you have to criticize that.
1984 is a fictional novel. Deriving arguments from it is not serious. And to argue with it is indeed completely absurd.
I know of no country in which immigration and asylum are not regulated and controlled by laws and authorities. So what exactly do you mean?
Reducing Marx to class struggle is very superficial. In the post you are referring to, there is no reference to Marx but to class struggle. Even before Marx, Machiavelli had already discovered the potential for conflict between the nobility and the bourgeoisie. And if it is enough, as in the case of Musk, that money is the only qualification to go into politics, then you have to criticize that.
1984 is a fictional novel. Deriving arguments from it is not serious. And to argue with it is indeed completely absurd.
I know of no country in which immigration and asylum are not regulated and controlled by laws and authorities. So what exactly do you mean?
Fictional novels are valuable and worth of refering to them, because it can wide someone's limited imagination and is good way to visualise something, to give example. If it has logic to the narration and story. Whole humanity stands on a lot of "fictional" tales and stories.
Especially, when in this "fictional" story You find things than already happen or begins to happen in our reality. It should tell You something.
Having laws and regulations doesn't mean these are good regulations. Example? Sweden, Germany, France, USA. High crime rate, rapes, zones where Police don't go, because the imigration was not controlled properly.
And stop calling fascist everyone who You don't like. Yes, Musk is rich and can spend his money for influence and power. Many people do this. It doesn't make them fascist.
Oxiu muokkasi tätä .
That evening, Elon Musk prepared the carpet for an interview with AfD chancellor candidate Alice Weidel. The interview was apparently just as insane as Elon Musk is. Alice Weidel made the claim that Adolf Hitler was not a fascist but a communist. That's not just a lie and disinformation, it's completely insane!
Fact check: It is true that both Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany were totalitarian states. However, Bolshevism in the Soviet Union was a major enemy in Hitler's ideology. Although there was state intervention, the Nazis generally respected the private property of non-Jewish entrepreneurs. The German economy, including many traditional family businesses, was involved in the crimes of the Hitler era and profited from the system. In many companies, this chapter was concealed for decades.
Immediately after coming to power, the Nazi state persecuted communists, socialists, social democrats and trade unionists. The KPD and the SPD were banned and thousands of leading left-wing party functionaries were sent to concentration camps. For example, Ernst Thälmann, leader of the KPD until 1933, was murdered in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944. Willy Brandt, who later became German Chancellor, had to flee Hitler's Germany as a socialist activist.
And stop calling fascist everyone who You don't like. Yes, Musk is rich and can spend his money for influence and power. Many people do this. It doesn't make them fascist.
I really don't get the impression that darkwytch arbitrarily calls someone a ‘fascist’ just because she doesn't like them.
When someone makes the statement that (quote): ‘Sweden, Germany, France, USA. High crime rate, rapes, zones where Police don't go, because the imigration was not controlled properly.’, this is an unsubstantiated statement that is being promoted and multiplied in right-wing groups on social media. But there is no verifiable evidence for it. The eternal repetition of the narrative that immigrants and asylum seekers are to blame for various situations is repeated everywhere, but there have been no reliable statistics to causally reflect this.
In the private message I sent You statistics of crimes in Europe, and those are the highest in countries that had the wider opened borders for immigrants. You answered me: "it's nonsense" and blocked me.
Now You are trying for some reason to refer to my posts. I don't know why, if You blocked me.
For me You just looks like another young leftist fanatic, that is not interested in genuine conversation. You are trying to write from "high ground", but it's just silly.
No verifiable evidence? I gave You statistics of Eurostat. Okay, them make some gimnastic, and explain to me, why the highest crime rates are in civilized west europe, especially in Great Britain, Spain, Germany, France, Sweden, not in easterm countries? Oh, maybe we in the east don't report when someone robber us, or rape us? Or maybe Poland have so much influence, that we falsified the european raport?
Why so many citizens turn to anti-imigration parties? Oh, right. Because they are stupid or uneducated.
Eventually, maybe You are the same person here that have already deleted account, and You just made another account to spread this nonsense?
I started this thread to ask you what you think of Mr. Musk. The topic is Musk, not immigration. This thread was not started to argue. Thank you very much 🤨
FYI every anti Musk account participating in this thread has been the same person making new accounts every few days. Keep em coming buddy: they're all getting blocked. At the end of the day you're wasting more of your time than mine. Get a life.
I don't like Musk but I don't use fake accounts 😳🤣