What are You talking about?
In one message You talk about special operation, and that there is war since 8 years.
In another message You are asking me if we need a enemy.
What? No, we don't need. I want to live in peace. And no, You should'nt hate Your country. But You should be aware of bad things that USSR done, and You should'nt wish these horrible times to anyone. You should be focused on better future.
Oxiu, I know what USSR did. I know what USA have done. I know what Germany have done. And believe me, America did more nasty things around the globe. Why you not talking about these things? What about Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libia, Syria?Was it a nice thing to do? Military operation I mentioned because many people don't know what's going on. And in fact it is a military operation because I told you - Ukraine did not declare a state of war to Russia. If you know why they didn't do it, clarify it for me. I don't know. Russia said it's a military operation. So, what is it then? What I can call it? You know, things are a little bit more complicated than we think.
War is war. War is when two countries, or other smaller insitutions are fighting with each other for territory, or something else.
Stop repeating stuff about military operation. Its war. People are dying, soldiers are shooting, tanks are shooting, jets are flying and droping bombs. Declaration of war don't have any matter. Or it have, when You are trying to spread propaganda and no logic.
The people that don't know what is going on are Your people. People from Your country, because noone there wants to say the truth.
And say whatever You want: okay, US do many wars. True. But since many years they are really civilized people, and their SOLDIERS too.
Proffesionalism is very common in NATO today, and it also stick to the sense of some ethic and how You act and behave on enemy territory.
Russia is striking at unarmed civils, and people that came to Poland would tell You this.
Of course i doubt You would believe them. You would instead say that they are actors or something.
Don't compare Russia to USA. Compare how it was under their occupation of west europe, with how it was under soviet occupation of east europe.
Oxiu, you are not listening, you just repeating the same thing again and again. You have some kind of block inside your head. Simple question but you are not answering me - why Ukraine did not declare war on Russia? It's a simple question, but very hard to answer it? You trying to simplify things which are not so simple. Killings are killings, but what if somebody came to your house and began to kill your parents? What will you do? Are you going to kill them or you'll still be saying - killings always killings? And what is that - Don't compare Russia to USA? What kind of argument is that? You know, there are many Germans who can say that they lived not so bad under Russian occupation. So, it's not a very good argument either. You are trying to exxagerate everything. I am sure that some Russians are not happy that now Russia is not socialist country. Such people are millions. So, what is it then? Why do they have a nostalgia?
They have nostalgia because they are the fortunate ones, and didn't died in gulags or nkvd prisons. it's matter of scale. And USSR built whole system to killing people, to closing them in prison, for nothing. It's not: "oh, well, but it happens everywhere sometimes...".
Want to see the difference between cognition of Russia, and other country? Check how many nazi's has been judged in germany after second war. And check how many soviets has been judged.
I don't care about war declaration! I care about the fact, that someone attacked the other one. Why is the declaration so important for You? You want to prove something or what?
You are the one who isn't listening.
You are trying to make it complicated, by sayings like "world isn't black and white" or "that isn't so obvious", "the world is changing".
But You know? Some things are simple.
Like: Russia attacked the Ukraine. The war is the result of that full scale attack.
Your "explainings" are worth nothing. You are just looking for excuses and justifications. There is no justification.
It's not "special operation".
They have nostalgia because they are the fortunate ones, and didn't died in gulags or nkvd prisons. it's matter of scale. And USSR built whole system to killing people, to closing them in prison, for nothing. It's not: "oh, well, but it happens everywhere sometimes..."."They have nostalgia because they are fortunate ones, and didn't died in gulags or nkvd prisons". Are you joking? Did you see it? Were you in USSR and saw it? No? So why are you talking about smtn you don't know? I'll answer this question: you're repeating bullshit (propaganda) which was washing your brains many many years. And I think, that you don't know USSR history, 'cause gulags were in Stalin's time. Actually, there was no NKVDs as well. In 1946 NKVD was transformed into KGB. Or I don't know something and USSR was broken in 1946? No? Guy, it's one of the most easy-to-find lease in your pure propaganda. And one more argument: if too much people died in prisons, how the fuck did USSR population growing up?Want to see the difference between cognition of Russia, and other country? Check how many nazi's has been judged in germany after second war. And check how many soviets has been judged.
I don't care about war declaration! I care about the fact, that someone attacked the other one. Why is the declaration so important for You? You want to prove something or what?
You are the one who isn't listening.
You are trying to make it complicated, by sayings like "world isn't black and white" or "that isn't so obvious", "the world is changing".
But You know? Some things are simple.
Like: Russia attacked the Ukraine. The war is the result of that full scale attack.Your "explainings" are worth nothing. You are just looking for excuses and justifications. There is no justification.
It's not "special operation".
They have nostalgia because they are the fortunate ones, and didn't died in gulags or nkvd prisons. it's matter of scale. And USSR built whole system to killing people, to closing them in prison, for nothing. It's not: "oh, well, but it happens everywhere sometimes..."."They have nostalgia because they are fortunate ones, and didn't died in gulags or nkvd prisons". Are you joking? Did you see it? Were you in USSR and saw it? No? So why are you talking about smtn you don't know? I'll answer this question: you're repeating bullshit (propaganda) which was washing your brains many many years. And I think, that you don't know USSR history, 'cause gulags were in Stalin's time. Actually, there was no NKVDs as well. In 1946 NKVD was transformed into KGB. Or I don't know something and USSR was broken in 1946? No? Guy, it's one of the most easy-to-find lease in your pure propaganda. And one more argument: if too much people died in prisons, how the fuck did USSR population growing up?Want to see the difference between cognition of Russia, and other country? Check how many nazi's has been judged in germany after second war. And check how many soviets has been judged.
I don't care about war declaration! I care about the fact, that someone attacked the other one. Why is the declaration so important for You? You want to prove something or what?
You are the one who isn't listening.
You are trying to make it complicated, by sayings like "world isn't black and white" or "that isn't so obvious", "the world is changing".
But You know? Some things are simple.
Like: Russia attacked the Ukraine. The war is the result of that full scale attack.Your "explainings" are worth nothing. You are just looking for excuses and justifications. There is no justification.
It's not "special operation".
I know it, because I live in the place, where that knowledge isn't prohobited.
You don't even know that USSR lasted from 1922 to 1991? It was in Stalin's time, and after Stalin's time. The person that You glorify and are fan of, by the way. And it's not only gulags. There was many prisons.
In 46' it only changed name, but it's the same organization.
"If too much people died in prison"
Where in Your opinion "too much" begins? If we talk about bilions of killed people.
And why You assume that number of killed people have anything with growing population? I nowhere said that more people died than has been born.
Anyway, You don't have argument here.
So let's summarize:
You are saying that Stalin didn't rule in the USSR times?
"You don't know USSR history, cause Gulags were in Stalins time".
What? And... There was no NKVD?
You think that Stalin and NKVD existed in some fictional land far far behind seven mountains or what?
And by the way, Lenin and his revolution started inprisoning people. Stalin were continuing. After Stalin it was still continued, in lower number and intensity, but still.
We had people in these prisons, moron. You can find thousands of stories of people who went through that hell.
Really, read Sołżenicyn.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#History_of_Gulag_population_estimates
They keep You away from this kind of info? Or everything is propaganda? Even stories of people that been there?
Go and educate Yourself about crimes of Your own country. Be aware! Stop glorifying mass murderer and author of genocide.
It's not some world conspiracy theory against Your country.
KonSTO should stop using the F word now or be reported. And let us not use name calling here either.
Oxiu, I give up. We are like a blind one and a deaf one. And you know what, that's why Vietnam happened, Libia, Syria etc. But you are not like to kill, but do everything that such things happened. It's pointless. USSR was terrible, but the USA was always a paradise with angels. Don't you see that world is a little bit more complicated? You think like 10 year old boy.
Oxiu, I lived in USSR, I was imprisoned there for politics and you are saying me to read Solzenizin? Do you know that he came back to Russia, and by the way, he was very critical about America. What about millions af Indian people, I mean native Americans? Do you know how many of them dyed? Are we going to gether the facts about who killed more people? It' stupid.
Oxiu, I lived in USSR, I was imprisoned there for politics and you are saying me to read Solzenizin? Do you know that he came back to Russia, and by the way, he was very critical about America. What about millions af Indian people, I mean native Americans? Do you know how many of them dyed? Are we going to gether the facts about who killed more people? It' stupid.Bringing up a deflection like the American continent's past is bizarre. I am a descendant of Native Amerrcans and I resent your assertions on our nation for hiding your political agenda.
American is the most free country in the world. You have to live in America to understand
Oxiu, I lived in USSR, I was imprisoned there for politics and you are saying me to read Solzenizin? Do you know that he came back to Russia, and by the way, he was very critical about America. What about millions af Indian people, I mean native Americans? Do you know how many of them dyed? Are we going to gether the facts about who killed more people? It' stupid.
Did I ever say, that America is innocent or pure? No. I didn't.
Being critical about one country, doesn't mean not being critical about another.
Amen.
Oxiu, you said I should not compare the USA with Russia. For you it's just a "GOD like" country. No matter what I say it wont change your mind. DWeathers, do you think many native people would agree with you? I just don't wanna start to talk about such things. I can talk about Black Lives Matter, transgenders etc, but it's too provocative. And I know you already watching for such things. You will be the first who is going to report it. So, I can repeat - Amen.
So when the soldiers are professionals or whoever attacks does not declare it this is not a war? May be the words have not the same signification between Russians and the rest of the World or it’s a mistake of translation? Yet the importance of the means of destruction implemented, the surface of the territories involved, the destruction of cities and the human losses suggests the opposite. Nobody except some Russians is dupe. It’s evident that the term of “special operation” was not chosen by chance. That was for giving an impression of little intervention in a much localized place during a short time like liberation of hostages to reassure public opinion of their country. This was one more manipulation on the part of the Russian authorities. I remember that in February Putin affirmed that the troop movement near the Ukrainian borders was only “military maneuvers”. This lie was also a means of manipulation to win time for his bad projects. Lying is for Russian government a way to be. When a Russian responsible speaks, try first to understand the goal of his words and not the literal signification. The last declarations didn’t seem coming from sane persons: Invading Alaska, some Baltic countries or annihilate Western Europe and causing chaos in the world. I hope Russians will not win. Otherwise another world will begin.
Aah
anil, I repeat - Ukraine did not declare the war on Russia! Why they didn't do it, I don't know. You explain it to me. Maybe Ukrainians think differently? Are we coming back to history? The war started 8 years ago. Do I have to say it again? Where have you been all these years? What happened if you realised it only now? What happened? Maybe we should wait for another 8 years and then we'll know what to do?
