Cause they don't care about human rights...
China is not a country like every..It's not the ussr too, but, you are not totaly free there...
We don't shoot the demonstrators here... We don't keep them in a prison because of a demontration.
I think, China's government just shows what he wanna show.
French-Touch > Okay, I write in english so everybody can understand.
Of course China isn't (doesn't seem) as free as France, but do you really think we're (french) all as informed and free as the french government wants us to think? There's still censorship. The medias are still subjective and biased, and still only show us what they want us to know. In the way they want us to interpret it. Of course there are some exceptions, such as "La Télé Libre", but it's not even legal!
We don't shoot the demonstrators here...
Oh we don't? But I still don't feel safe in the streets when it happens. And it's not because of the demonstrators, but rather because of the CRS...
Anyway, I don't know enough about the Tibet/China issue to be able to judge any country/people or tell whose fault it is. I just think the Olympic Games should represent the peace and the good part of the sport (I mean, except all this money-at-all-costs stuff) and as it's already been said, athletes deserve to compete, and the boycott won't make things any better... Of course it's only my view.
Yet I have to admit I agree with you French-Touch, about things that China shows to its people and to the world... That's the same as in France or the US anyway. However, my litterature teacher couldn't even get out of the airport in Beijing because she had too much french revolutionary books and the police couldn't run the risk someone might read them and take those insane ideas for real...
But it's still my opinion, and I don't know how people can get to blame this or that country if, as it's been said, they've never seen how it's really going there.
Mirage > I'm sure you will...
French-Touch > Okay, I write in english so everybody can understand.It's sad to say...But you are right.
Of course China isn't (doesn't seem) as free as France, but do you really think we're (french) all as informed and free as the french government wants us to think? There's still censorship. The medias are still subjective and biased, and still only show us what they want us to know. In the way they want us to interpret it. Of course there are some exceptions, such as "La Télé Libre", but it's not even legal!We don't shoot the demonstrators here...
Oh we don't? But I still don't feel safe in the streets when it happens. And it's not because of the demonstrators, but rather because of the CRS...
Anyway, I don't know enough about the Tibet/China issue to be able to judge any country/people or tell whose fault it is. I just think the Olympic Games should represent the peace and the good part of the sport (I mean, except all this money-at-all-costs stuff) and as it's already been said, athletes deserve to compete, and the boycott won't make things any better... Of course it's only my view.
Yet I have to admit I agree with you French-Touch, about things that China shows to its people and to the world... That's the same as in France or the US anyway. However, my litterature teacher couldn't even get out of the airport in Beijing because she had too much french revolutionary books and the police couldn't run the risk someone might read them
and take those insane ideas for real...But it's still my opinion, and I don't know how people can get to blame this or that country if, as it's been said, they've never seen how it's really going there.
We don't live in a free country. Nobody realy do i think. But.. I mean.. here, we are more free than somewhere else. For sure, a lot of papers are censored by our "great" president, by the medias themselves, by the big firmes and so.. But you already can find the truth. you just have to choose the informations. read the "canard enchainé" "charly hebdo" "marriane" "L'humanité"..
for sure.. It is hard to protest here., and we should not be happy of our situation..But imagine in China...Or somewhere else
[quote]It's sad to say...But you are right.
We don't live in a free country. Nobody realy do i think. But.. I mean.. here, we are more free than somewhere else. For sure, a lot of papers are censored by our "great" president, by the medias themselves, by the big firmes and so.. But you already can find the truth. you just have to choose the informations. read the "canard enchainé" "charly hebdo" "marriane" "L'humanité"..
for sure.. It is hard to protest here., and we should not be happy of our situation..But imagine in China...Or somewhere else
I know I'm right *BAAAAAAAAF*
Nobody's free? How pessimistic you are! ... Okay... Maybe you're right. xX Yeah, we're supposed to be the "pays des libertés", but I don't feel like it's true.
I kinda like what you say =D That's how I see people are from Paris... They're just so aware of things people don't even notice here... Agree with you for all the rest, from the """"""great""""" to the choice of Marianne. Of course I don't read Le Point XD But it's hard now since even Libé's controlled by Sarkozy... Anyway that's not the topic, I'm sorry =)
I agree when you say that chinese people aren't that free and well-informed and all... but we just can't blame THEM, but the government. Once more --'
For sure 🙂
That is a government problem. So, i think it won't stay like that. It will change...(Im optimistic now 😃)
The Olympic Games isn't an sporting event only (look at happened in Berlin, Munich, Montr
For sure... That is not why we should not act 😛
I think that we can do something, i mean, the ones who want to act... Just in buying nothing from China...Even if it's sometimes hard, it worked sometimes in the past.
I feel that i have to act... That's my feeling 🙂
The competition should be.
For sure... That is not why we should not act 😛buy nothing from China?I think that we can do something, i mean, the ones who want to act... Just in buying nothing from China...Even if it's sometimes hard, it worked sometimes in the past.
I feel that i have to act... That's my feeling 🙂
The competition should be.
I keep seeing stuff in the news that they're really improving with the issue. They banned smoking in most public places for example, and they're trying to clean up a bit more.But they just aren't enough to compensate for violating human rights of people. After all, Olympics is for peace thru sports! Tibetans want to live in THEIR country, not another country! And, they should be given the choice.
'S'all good!
(I always wanted to say that!)
It's our business on the Tibet issue.hello there! I'd be happy if you noted that we're living in the 21st century, where communication rules. We aren't in 12th century or something to believe only what we see. Do you not believe anything you don't see? Do you not believe any of us or your epals just cos you haven't seen them? If no, it defeats the purpose of you being here!
Have you ever been to China?So,do you know the fact that happened in China?
No see,no comment!
You may have a comment when you live here.
What is your human right??Is that rebellion in somewhere,and use violence?
If you'd like to know about Human rights, you can go here: http://www0.un.org/Overview/rights.html
Peaceful protests and demonstrations which have been suppressed have only turned to rebellions and they can be approved of to stop denial of basic human rights!
To stay in a country what is not yours, that is the problem.You've got it right! But I don't think violence could be the answer in the long term.(not with so many innocent people dying in the process) Could it be? But, yeah, Dalai Lama's efforts seem to be ineffective. He's still trying for peace, though, in the end, if the young Tibetans are going to resort to violence, I don't think he'll be able to stop them.I think the situation in this country is... Unreal. The spoke about the dalaï-lama like if he was a terrorist... This men loves peace. He tries to speak, but they don't hear him... Maybe, at the end, there is no others solutions, except violence.
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now,here,i am chinese.you guys should listen to the opinions from chinese people.Of course, we are listening to the Chinese (including Tibetans, as per the Chinese claim)! We wouldn't think China as repressive and tyrant if it didn't censor so much. If we were actually allowed to see what's going on, then maybe we could see a 'free' and 'open' China. I think people everywhere have the common sense to analyse things-a govt. needn't do it for them.
well, i think all your opinions are invariably originated from the instinctive hostility towards the country under the title"socialism".i hate this title too.it represents the repression, the tyranny.it gives the infame to every chinese,of course,including me.
but, believe me.that title is just a title.china is a definitely free,open country.otherwise,how can the olympic committee awarded the 29th olympic games for beijing? we are totally different from those so-called socialism countries.such as north korea,which is still insulated from the outside world;cuba,which has just permitted their people using cellphones recently. China is a normal country as yours.just somehow reserved the stupid tittle"socialism country".
just come and have a glimpse of china,you will understand what china now is.
I agree completely.French-Touch > Okay, I write in english so everybody can understand.It's sad to say...But you are right.
Of course China isn't (doesn't seem) as free as France, but do you really think we're (french) all as informed and free as the french government wants us to think? There's still censorship. The medias are still subjective and biased, and still only show us what they want us to know. In the way they want us to interpret it. Of course there are some exceptions, such as "La Télé Libre", but it's not even legal!We don't shoot the demonstrators here...
Oh we don't? But I still don't feel safe in the streets when it happens. And it's not because of the demonstrators, but rather because of the CRS...
Anyway, I don't know enough about the Tibet/China issue to be able to judge any country/people or tell whose fault it is. I just think the Olympic Games should represent the peace and the good part of the sport (I mean, except all this money-at-all-costs stuff) and as it's already been said, athletes deserve to compete, and the boycott won't make things any better... Of course it's only my view.
Yet I have to admit I agree with you French-Touch, about things that China shows to its people and to the world... That's the same as in France or the US anyway. However, my litterature teacher couldn't even get out of the airport in Beijing because she had too much french revolutionary books and the police couldn't run the risk someone might read them
and take those insane ideas for real...But it's still my opinion, and I don't know how people can get to blame this or that country if, as it's been said, they've never seen how it's really going there.
We don't live in a free country. Nobody realy do i think. But.. I mean.. here, we are more free than somewhere else. For sure, a lot of papers are censored by our "great" president, by the medias themselves, by the big firmes and so.. But you already can find the truth. you just have to choose the informations. read the "canard enchainé" "charly hebdo" "marriane" "L'humanité"..
for sure.. It is hard to protest here., and we should not be happy of our situation..But imagine in China...Or somewhere else
