Personally i don't think it is needed .
I see little kids and wonder why something as burtal as war should affect them or even young adults why should we suffer when the rich and powerful can live their lives and their kids lives without being effected? So i ask what's your opinion on wars in general and if you think there has been a 'good ' reason for war
There is no need for war, but many countries attack another country to stabilize their power and in some cases because of the lack of balance of power.
In the first case, a country that considers a relatively close country to be a threat to its power attacks it to keep its power stable. In some cases, militarily it may not see a country as a threat to itself, but with the interests that its neighboring countries have, they can soon reduce its power. So the attack in this case is a kind of fear. But in the second case, it is just greed. "This country is weaker than me, why shouldn't I have it?" So it attacks and occupies, the more, the better! Extreme and savage nationalists. Of course, it is much more complicated now, maybe a country does not attack independently, and chooses an intermediary, maybe it creates an economic war, which again, in the end, none of them will cause occupation and colonization without a land war. And of course, geniuses like Trump indoctrinate people with their wars in the direction of "world peace", and they are successful in this.
Yes, wars may cause devastation and impoverish families, but ultimately a war must end with the achievement of the goal of the initiator, otherwise everything is a waste!
War isn't a necessity, but rather a luxury serving to polish our national or regional egos.
It's not necessary for all countries but required for some rogue states like North Korea and Pakistan mainly to show them their true place.
It's not necessary for all countries but required for some rogue states like North Korea and Pakistan mainly to show them their true place.
your comment about certain countries needing to be "shown their true place" is deeply problematic and inappropriate for a public forum.
this kind of language isn't merely an opinion; it directly degrades an entire community and country. It's crucial to remember that while a nation's government or specific groups within it might engage in actions we disagree with—or even find abhorrent—it is fundamentally wrong to condemn or demonize an entire nation and its millions of citizens based solely on the actions of a few, or even a ruling party.
Furthermore, labeling any sovereign nation a 'rogue state' and asserting they need to be 'shown their true place' is profoundly insulting and dehumanizing. This strips away the dignity of an entire country, its government, and its people, functioning as a form of collective punishment delivered purely through rhetoric.
@TheLOVERofMachinesyour comment about certain countries needing to be "shown their true place" is deeply problematic and inappropriate for a public forum.
this kind of language isn't merely an opinion; it directly degrades an entire community and country.
The people must realize that their governments are a scam and oust them it is their realization, and this change has begun in places like Pakistan besides I shall give an example of your own nation, you threw out the Rajapakasas didn't you, and it was time you saved your country, had it been longer with them then you were the next Pakistan, the country's sentiment's summation are their respective governments so it's the people's problem to accept their idiotic governments, thus when we show countries their true place it gives their citizens a chance to realize themselves so it's a medium of change and is not meant for degrading them.
War is rarely necessary. It is way over done. But ummmm.... I don't object to wars that prevent genocides and I don't oppose peaceful nations being violently invaded defending themselves as tragically necessary. Beyond that.... I am sure there are other good reasons for war but I can't think of any. Oh wait! Slavery. Not having that anymore is a good reason to fight. Only idealists say war should be completely avoidable. I wish it could be. It should be when ever possible. But there are times to fight and things worth fighting for and dying for and asking others to dye and suffer for. Such things are very very few. We should be trying every other avenue before going with war. Then we should try them all again.... But there is a time and a place and a moment tragically for everything. Including war. EVERY moment however is NOT a moment for it. And nearly all the wars humans have had have been unnecessary. And even the necessary ones were usually entered for the wrong reasons. But yes, there is unfortunately a time for war.
The people must realize that their governments are a scam and oust them it is their realization, and this change has begun in places like Pakistan besides I shall give an example of your own nation, you threw out the Rajapakasas didn't you, and it was time you saved your country, had it been longer with them then you were the next Pakistan, the country's sentiment's summation are their respective governments so it's the people's problem to accept their idiotic governments, thus when we show countries their true place it gives their citizens a chance to realize themselves so it's a medium of change and is not meant for degrading them.
Yeah, idiot government, you mean India, the India with a huge gap between the rich and the poor, the India that used to shout about ‘replacing China’ but now can't even build a Foxconn factory, the India where industrialisation has become an international joke? I don't want to belittle any country, but your comments about Pakistan and North Korea and Sri Lanka and your proud tone don't sit well with me. There are more examples of India's ridiculous operations that I don't want to cite anymore. Therefore, please do not casually turn this discussion on war into an attack on other countries, nor do you casually stand on the moral high ground of humanity and criticize any country or nation. Well, I'm not looking down on India or the Indian people (except maybe you), I'm just talking from the reality of India's development.
Yeah, idiot government, you mean India, the India with a huge gap between the rich and the poor, the India that used to shout about ‘replacing China’ but now can't even build a Foxconn factory, the India where industrialisation has become an international joke? I don't want to belittle any country, but your comments about Pakistan and North Korea and Sri Lanka and your proud tone don't sit well with me. There are more examples of India's ridiculous operations that I don't want to cite anymore. Therefore, please do not casually turn this discussion on war into an attack on other countries, nor do you casually stand on the moral high ground of humanity and criticize any country or nation. Well, I'm not looking down on India or the Indian people (except maybe you), I'm just talking from the reality of India's development.
And that sir is what your government tells you:
The foxconn factory is literally in my city, in fact its only around 3-4 km from my residence:
India USED TO, IS and WILL comment on terror supporting states like Pakistan.
We are the fastest growing economy in the world,
In your country to send an Email we need to wait 5-6 hours (from other nations) ask why? OH YES, IT HAS TO BE CENSORED!? at least in India I can speak my mind and no one is going to chuck me in jail or one of your so called "death vans" or shoot me in a square full of protesters, even if we do not have the industrial growth as you guys, we have FREEDOM, I dare you to shout on a square "DEATH TO THE COMMUNIST PARTY AND XI JIMPING" and it is unlikely you will message on this platform or any other ever again.
In a country where growth is backed by hammer and sickle, growth is expected but till what extent?
In your country practicing religion is a crime, is this freedom?
You feel free to stride in Taiwanese, Indian lands, you come into Kiwi and Philipino waters like it is your house. Is this not ridiculous?
Billionaires in your nation are stripped of their hard-earned wealth, how is this not ridiculous?
I can surely say that in a country where you cannot send a tweet or email without it being checked is not actually developed, and thus getting real news seems unlikely.
You cite India's operations, during the Beijing Olympics, the residents were asked to NOT WEAR BLACK SHOES WITH WHITE SOCKS?!, why does the government decide that? How does this not qualify as ridiculous?
Your "so called" reality is making other countries like Sri Lanka and Pakistan broke, it's nothing but neo colonization, name one country which has prospered under Chinese help? India is helping UAE, Tanzania etc. we are helping rebuild the SRI LANKAN economy, only a couple of days ago our PM signed several deals with SL in this regard.
I do not intend to comment on the Chinese people, I look down upon the attitude imposed in your heads by your government, or cite propaganda, I have told only what I know is true
I beseech you to reply...
Sir, this is also what your country has told you, isn't it?
Foxconn has already built factories in India, and I know that. I'm just referring to the “minor” conflicts between Foxconn and India. Also, why didn't you mention the other jokes I made besides the one about Foxconn?
China has always, and will continue to, comment on countries that bully the weak and fear the strong.
Yes, but what about your per capita income? What about the living conditions of your lower-class people? Tell me, why?
How do you know it takes 5-6 hours? Have you posted it? Right, your arrogant and self-righteous remarks only make India look foolish. Death trucks? Such advanced things—I’ve never heard of them in China. The Chinese Constitution guarantees our rights to assembly, procession, and demonstration, but we are indeed satisfied with the government, so no one is doing that now.
India has so much labor, so growth is inevitable. However, India's social diversity, uneven economic development, lagging infrastructure, varying levels of education, and complex political system will continue to affect you.
Is practicing religion a crime? Well, young man, you might only know China from 100 years ago. Now, Chinese people practice Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism. We only ban certain cults that deceive and manipulate members to harm society.
Do you really understand Chinese history? I can't believe how India established diplomatic relations with China. Please carefully review Chinese history; Taiwan has always been part of China. The China-India border issue has been negotiated, but hasn't every border war been initiated by India? As for the other countries, you should research them yourself...
That’s too exaggerated, and that was China 70 years ago. There were no billionaires, and their wealth was obtained through the exploitation and oppression of the people.
Is that so? Please watch IShowSpeed’s China trip. That’s the real China. Well, you haven’t become the world’s second-largest economy yet. Face reality, okay? China is superior to India in terms of education accessibility, social healthcare, environmental development, per capita income, overall economic scale, and technological innovation.
I haven’t heard of that. I think I dressed like that back then. Stop using fabricated “facts” from foreign media to insult China.
Interestingly, China has already provided multiple rounds of aid to Sri Lanka. You’re moving too slowly. In 2018, China and the United Arab Emirates had already established a strategic partnership, and we have been mutually assisting Tanzania for 50 years. I hope your government doesn't get in the way.
Fine, then please remain stuck in your ways and maintain your outdated attitude toward China. After all, India's reputation in China isn't that great either...
Boring arguments. I didn't even want to respond to someone who can't see reality and just starts ranting.
Wasn't there a Chinese dam in the highlands of India or Nepal to control the melt water for various rivers that supply India with drinking water?
But China would never do such a thing, China is peaceful and only wants to get along well with its neighbors.
Wait... there's an interesting deposit of rare earths. There must be a document somewhere from 590 years ago that says... a governor claimed that the area belonged to China! Great!... that it has been in Western Europe since the 2nd World War. A thing of the past...
Sir, this is also what your country has told you, isn't it?
Foxconn has already built factories in India, and I know that. I'm just referring to the “minor” conflicts between Foxconn and India. Also, why didn't you mention the other jokes I made besides the one about Foxconn?
China has always, and will continue to, comment on countries that bully the weak and fear the strong.
Yes, but what about your per capita income? What about the living conditions of your lower-class people? Tell me, why?
How do you know it takes 5-6 hours? Have you posted it? Right, your arrogant and self-righteous remarks only make India look foolish. Death trucks? Such advanced things—I’ve never heard of them in China. The Chinese Constitution guarantees our rights to assembly, procession, and demonstration, but we are indeed satisfied with the government, so no one is doing that now.
India has so much labor, so growth is inevitable. However, India's social diversity, uneven economic development, lagging infrastructure, varying levels of education, and complex political system will continue to affect you.
Is practicing religion a crime? Well, young man, you might only know China from 100 years ago. Now, Chinese people practice Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism. We only ban certain cults that deceive and manipulate members to harm society.
Do you really understand Chinese history? I can't believe how India established diplomatic relations with China. Please carefully review Chinese history; Taiwan has always been part of China. The China-India border issue has been negotiated, but hasn't every border war been initiated by India? As for the other countries, you should research them yourself...
That’s too exaggerated, and that was China 70 years ago. There were no billionaires, and their wealth was obtained through the exploitation and oppression of the people.
Is that so? Please watch IShowSpeed’s China trip. That’s the real China. Well, you haven’t become the world’s second-largest economy yet. Face reality, okay? China is superior to India in terms of education accessibility, social healthcare, environmental development, per capita income, overall economic scale, and technological innovation.
I haven’t heard of that. I think I dressed like that back then. Stop using fabricated “facts” from foreign media to insult China.
Interestingly, China has already provided multiple rounds of aid to Sri Lanka. You’re moving too slowly. In 2018, China and the United Arab Emirates had already established a strategic partnership, and we have been mutually assisting Tanzania for 50 years. I hope your government doesn't get in the way.
Fine, then please remain stuck in your ways and maintain your outdated attitude toward China. After all, India's reputation in China isn't that great either...
Boring arguments. I didn't even want to respond to someone who can't see reality and just starts ranting.
Oh please, only last week mu father messaged our relatives in China IT TOOK 5 HOURS TO REACH...
Yes, I agree we have wealth disparity in India, my great grandparents were manual laborers, today my father works in a MNC in a high-ranking position, the same story is said in many households. India is slowly and surely working on this issue too, by 2050 we shall be adequately developed to reduce our wealth disparity and increase our per-capita income.
You are led to believe that you have the imaginary rights of freedom, and the sad truth is that your government won't tell you it's shady parts, while ours has no choice.
You say that India bullies the weak and strong, I implore you to suggest an example of this.
The world has seen how you bully Taiwan, Philippines, New Zealand, Australia, and so on...
India has never established any real diplomatic relationship with China especially after the 1962 attack on India by China, which unfortunately you won...
NO, none of the wars have been instigated by India let me explain:
1) 1948: Pakistani tribals and army attempt to forcefully take Kashmir... they fail.
2) 1962: PLA attacks Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh, they fail to take Arunachal Pradesh...
3) 1965: Pakistan launches a surprise attack on India in Kashmir; war ends in a UN brokered ceasefire no real victor...
4) 1971: Pakistan launches surprise air raids on Indian military installation, ends with one of the largest surrenders in history, 93,000 Pakistani soldiers surrender in what is now Bangladesh.
5) 1999: Pakistan army violates the Shimla agreement and attempts to capture strategic Indian mountains, fails.
Please tell me how India could have averted them...
You say religion is allowed, please try to practice it and show us what happens, in your country people from Tibet and Hong Kong are not given jobs because they are considered politically unreliable...
NO, you have alienated every decent country on the planet, and western media is a joke, I read mostly Indian, Japanese and Arabic media...
In 2008 you were not born unless you are lying about your age, how could have you dressed like that?
Your aid to Sri Lanka has shown what your idea of aid is.
In that logic India assisted you in the beginning of the pandemic, we provided you with essential items like PPE kits and masks,
We are forecasted to become the world's 3rd largest economy by '26 beating Germany it's only a short run from there to you all, anyhow Trump is ensuring USA won't be the foremost economy anymore,
I do not need to be outdated because you guys still are, we saw how well Chinese made weapons worked in the recent Ino-Pak conflict, just goes to how that Chinese modernization efforts are just jokes.
And it seriously does not matter if India is hated in your country, because you guys are your biggest enemies, the day the truth about the Chinese government is revealed you all will move to Taiwan en masse, and I can bet on it.
And if I rant then your country is full of people who rant.
I would say war isn't needed. I've never killed anyone in my life and I'm OK. Hopefully no one else in this forum has killed or will kill anyone in the future and your lives will be happy.
But maybe human beings are never satisfied with what they currently have and we want what others have. We'll do anything to get it, including starting a war to kill for it. But this strive to always get more is what drives technology and creates innovation. Without war, would mankind still be living in caves, scratching pictures on walls? Is having wars worth the current living standards we have?
I don't even want to talk to you anymore...
Please speak based on your country's true strength, okay?
Also, my comment about my attire in 2008 was just a joke, meaning that China didn't do that. Why are you taking it so seriously, bro?
Also, when did I ever say that India is a country that bullies others? Please don't jump to conclusions, okay?
China also provided aid to India during the pandemic, so that evens things out, right?
I don’t want to say anything else. It’s a pointless argument. You can always refute me, and I can always refute you. We both know that. If you really want me to refute you point by point, just tell me.
But China’s sovereignty cannot tolerate foreign interference. Do you understand?
Alright, let’s make a bet. In 25 years, I bet India won’t develop as well as China, and China will have reunified with Taiwan, not moved to Taiwan as you claim.
I just want to end this argument. It’s wasting my time, but China will never back down.
Oh, and that German guy—maybe you’re just too old. Study history properly. The world isn’t yours anymore; it belongs to the youth.
It depends on why he started it.But this should not happen easily unless it is extremely necessary, especially extreme acts of blind hatred and genocide.
If a country has a bad monarch in power, the people hope he will step down immediately, but this is an internal matter of that country, and I believe other countries have no right to interfere. If force must be used, it must be for justice, not for the benefit of a particular group.
We all know that a society's economy is the most basic and lowest level, and politics is the highest level, but war is often closely related to the pursuit of interests.
But we know that today we have much more than our ancestors did, but many of us are still not satisfied and are not grateful for what we have. So I believe greed is the root of conflict—deeper than religion and bigotry. Wars break out between nations because they crave more resources, not satisfaction.
(Since most religions teach people the right path, we now also have some stories about Judaism, Islam, Christianity, they have the same roots)
I feel like the problems in the Middle East are often exacerbated by the stubbornness and greed of the big powers, which is a mental illness. I also value other people's views and opinions on this.
I think we should look at many issues calmly and not be blinded by many mainstream media. The media in many countries has been controlled by the government, so what is the truth? Many countries only show us civilians what they want us to see.
Also, even though we appear to be two divided territories, I think the best scenario is to maintain the status quo, but only if there are no other major powers manipulating public opinion behind the scenes. No country wants to be a pawn in a chess game. Yet many of our nations are also pawns or players in the chess game. Few countries can maintain the status quo peacefully.
I don't even want to talk to you anymore...
Please speak based on your country's true strength, okay?
Also, my comment about my attire in 2008 was just a joke, meaning that China didn't do that. Why are you taking it so seriously, bro?
Also, when did I ever say that India is a country that bullies others? Please don't jump to conclusions, okay?
China also provided aid to India during the pandemic, so that evens things out, right?
I don’t want to say anything else. It’s a pointless argument. You can always refute me, and I can always refute you. We both know that. If you really want me to refute you point by point, just tell me.
But China’s sovereignty cannot tolerate foreign interference. Do you understand?
Alright, let’s make a bet. In 25 years, I bet India won’t develop as well as China, and China will have reunified with Taiwan, not moved to Taiwan as you claim.
I just want to end this argument. It’s wasting my time, but China will never back down.
Oh, and that German guy—maybe you’re just too old. Study history properly. The world isn’t yours anymore; it belongs to the youth.
Youth which your country has too less, so how will it develop?
Ok, bets on,
I won't discuss this further.
