The 5 horsemen of nuclear politics: Trump, Putin, Bibi, Kim and Asim Munir.

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Lately, the global order has been shaking hard, multiple ongoing conflicts amongst several nuclear powers, several leaders of these states stand out, these are the ones whose name has been referred to above, but why indeed are they so dangerous and why is there no check to keep them in place. Do any of these men actually threaten to start World War 3 and if yes, in which way and form? Do you think that any measure is needed to ensure politics remains free of such people? And are they actually liked by their citizens?

That's sheer lunacy I'd say. It reminds me the famous quote from the Animal Farm: "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." In current politics it is updated into "All animals are equal but some animals may have nuclear weapons to ensure the inferior equality of others." Period.

Yes. Donald Trump is an orange and very low intelligence dip shit, There is a very high chance he starts world war the third Nuclear version. How will he do it? Your guess is as good as mine. He may set it in motion when Putin, is ready for it by ordering a bombing of Iran's nuclear development facilities giving Russia the opportunity to defend it's proxy without looking more like the A hole they already look like with what they have done to Ukraine. Or Russia, might start it by getting a bit slappy happy with their activities of late along the Finnish border. Last time they were there they shot their own men and created an excuse to invade blaming Finland. Maybe Iran starts it? By developing the bomb that they shouldn't have. Maybe India, blows up Pakistan.... Maybe Israel goes nutz.... It's a powder keg lately on the brink in all the trouble spots, and even areas that were not considered trouble spots. So which one will cause it? A wise old zen master used to say, "only don't know." He was my friend. I will go with that for now. But we are on the edge of a knife in relation to the third world war. That much is self evident. If I have to put money on who will start it, I gonna go with the orange creep who has the marines arresting Californians in violation of the constitution, while he sits in the white house scarfing cheese burgers from Mcdonalds then goes off to play golf between rounds of constipation while sitting atop his golden throne that really should be made of porcelain. But.... That is just my opinion.

I am an American citizen. Born here. Family been here since the Mayflower. Do their citizens like them? I can't speak to that for all of them. But I can say, that while I am fiercely dedicated to non violent activism, I DO hate Donald Trump. I keep hoping his golden toilet swallows him..... I know the majority of the USA, is not thrilled with what he is getting himself up to and his impact on our communities. But how much of a majority? Not much. He has a sickophantic cult following of people as mentally ill as he is. People who don't understand real life can not be a reality tv show. The world can't function that way.

I think it is hard to keep politics free of these folks... Democracy, is a wonderful thing. I would hate to give it up... That said, when these folks get crazy we all need to do better to non violently remove them from power before they do too much damage. But where does that line fall and who decides? California decided recently. Then the no king's march also took to the streets... So we the people should decide. And at least here gradually we are. The midterms will come. When they do, a leash will at the very least be put on the orange menace.

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Yes. Donald Trump is an orange and very low intelligence dip shit, There is a very high chance he starts world war the third Nuclear version. How will he do it? Your guess is as good as mine. He may set it in motion when Putin, is ready for it by ordering a bombing of Iran's nuclear development facilities giving Russia the opportunity to defend it's proxy without looking more like the A hole they already look like with what they have done to Ukraine. Or Russia, might start it by getting a bit slappy happy with their activities of late along the Finnish border. Last time they were there they shot their own men and created an excuse to invade blaming Finland. Maybe Iran starts it? By developing the bomb that they shouldn't have. Maybe India, blows up Pakistan.... Maybe Israel goes nutz.... It's a powder keg lately on the brink in all the trouble spots, and even areas that were not considered trouble spots. So which one will cause it? A wise old zen master used to say, "only don't know." He was my friend. I will go with that for now. But we are on the edge of a knife in relation to the third world war. That much is self evident. If I have to put money on who will start it, I gonna go with the orange creep who has the marines arresting Californians in violation of the constitution, while he sits in the white house scarfing cheese burgers from Mcdonalds then goes off to play golf between rounds of constipation while sitting atop his golden throne that really should be made of porcelain. But.... That is just my opinion.

I am an American citizen. Born here. Family been here since the Mayflower. Do their citizens like them? I can't speak to that for all of them. But I can say, that while I am fiercely dedicated to non violent activism, I DO hate Donald Trump. I keep hoping his golden toilet swallows him..... I know the majority of the USA, is not thrilled with what he is getting himself up to and his impact on our communities. But how much of a majority? Not much. He has a sickophantic cult following of people as mentally ill as he is. People who don't understand real life can not be a reality tv show. The world can't function that way.

I think it is hard to keep politics free of these folks... Democracy, is a wonderful thing. I would hate to give it up... That said, when these folks get crazy we all need to do better to non violently remove them from power before they do too much damage. But where does that line fall and who decides? California decided recently. Then the no king's march also took to the streets... So we the people should decide. And at least here gradually we are. The midterms will come. When they do, a leash will at the very least be put on the orange menace.

Trump is a madman for all I see, he abuses his power to do things not at all needed, his long nose protrudes further than one could imagine, he claims credit for things he has not done, has a problem with every country (even USA), Trump is very clear on his MAUA program (Make America Undeveloped again) because the last time US increased tariffs we had the great depression.

No, India is NOT going to blow up Pakistan until they try as:

1) The fallout is going to come right on us.

2) We have a standing NFU policy.

3) Our nukes are too precious to be wasted in Pakistan.

Trump thinks that he is the only one right on this planet and everyone should bow to him and his racist opinion, he recently insulted French President on X (What is that behavior and is it expected from the leader of a superpower). feels anyone who goes against him must be quelled. Such attitude is very important for MAUA.

At the moment Russia has its hands full I don't think they will give any military support to Iran even though money or equipment, is no problem for them.

What Trump is doing in California at the moment is no different to what China did at Tianmen square. He is a dictator with near limitless power, you Americans ought to be more careful with democracy.

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MAUA.... hehe... Nice one. Now I like you. You are not funny and not dumb. I appreciate that. I also agree with your assessment of the history regarding tariffs. This is (doing the Trump hand movements) hugely stupid.... Bigger than hands stupid. very dumb. If we keep supporting him folks soon we won't have a country anymore. I call Trump The Mango Mussolini, or Agent Orange cuz he works for Putin, and he is a ridiculous shade of orange. You may be too young to understand the double meaning of the latter name. Please don't ask me to explain the behavior of an insane walking mango. I literally can't. As for racist, yes he totally is. It's disgusting isn't it??? Hmmm the french president, is an adult. He also strikes me as an intelligent guy. I think he can handle Trump and his abuse just fine and fire it right back at him when and if he chooses to. So that concerns me a little bit less. That said, it does suck because he is representing all of us on the world stage and the fact that he is a stinking moron makes us all look horrible.

Trump has a very tiny.... HANDS!!!! (wink wink) He thinks a tough guy breaks people down. He doesn't understand being a moron, that the truly bad ass build each other up. Only little people have to be mean and cruel. The rest find other avenues to feel strong. So, he abuses the French president. He abuses everyone.... He is such a small person that that is what he does to feel bigger. It's pretty pathetic and rather sad. It is also evidence that he actually is very insecure and deeply hates himself as much as I hate him. It is how he compensates for his self hate. By mistreating others to feel as though his "hands" are big.

I doubt Russia will help Iran militaristically also. But who needs to when you own the guy declaring war on Iran???

Well... Yes.... It is quite similar unfortunately to that terrible event in China. I didn't vote for the orange oompa loompa. So do NOT lay his election at my feet. I had NOTHING to do with it. But I say the same thing often to Americans, they should be more careful with democracy. You are not wrong. Yes, we have a dictator. It's horrible.

Lately, the global order has been shaking hard, multiple ongoing conflicts amongst several nuclear powers, several leaders of these states stand out, these are the ones whose name has been referred to above, but why indeed are they so dangerous and why is there no check to keep them in place. Do any of these men actually threaten to start World War 3 and if yes, in which way and form? Do you think that any measure is needed to ensure politics remains free of such people? And are they actually liked by their citizens?

do not forget Claus Swab, i think hes the top of the top.

I think everything will end soon in Iran. The Iranian Foreign Ministry just said that Iran reserves the right to respond with military strikes to a US attack - the Iranians clearly do not want the war to continue.
I think they will agree with the US to shell some US military base where their missiles will reach and the personnel will be withdrawn in advance - and then everyone will calm down, as has happened before.

but the double standards are indicative of course - the US and Israel attacked a sovereign state that did not attack them - and where are the protests, sanctions, declaration of an aggressor? As if that is how it should be, what about international law?

The Iran declared Israel the war last year.

And regarding to that Russia should be very quiet 😉

did Iran just officially announce it? I haven't heard anything about that - and what does Russia have to do with it? What does Russia have to do with Iran or Israel?

The Iran declared Israel the war last year.

And regarding to that Russia should be very quiet 😉

Russia should not talk about declaring a war or attack another country in a sudden.

Btw. did Russia declare the war before they attacked Ukraine?


Russia “firmly” condemns the US attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities. The “irresponsible decision” by the US to bomb Iran violates international law and the United Nations Charter, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced. The UN Security Council must react to this. The attack also caused damage to the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Moscow therefore expects a clear reaction from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

no, Russia did not declare war on Ukraine, Ukraine did not declare war on Russia, no one has declared war on each other lately - although they continue to fight, including NATO attacking Yugoslavia or Libya.
if I live in Russia - does not mean that I support this war.
But this does not mean at all that Zelensky is somehow better than Putin, he is not even a victim of aggression - he did everything to make the war happen, for example, he announced his desire to make a nuclear bomb (what about Israel and Iran?) not the slightest attempt to negotiate with the rebels - although before his presidency he went to perform in the LPR and DPR, if you did not mean Zelensky dodged mobilization four times - including running away from a summons to Russia. And now he is telling - how shameful it is for men who do not want to go to the front to dodge summonses.


International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors have seen no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, IAEA Director Rafael Grossi said in a Bloomberg television interview. (с)

by the way, about double standards
In 2010, the International Court of Justice issued an advisory opinion in which it ruled that Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence was not contrary to international law. This decision was made in response to a request from the UN General Assembly.
Although Kosovo's declaration of independence was a unilateral act and did not comply with generally accepted procedures, the Court concluded that it did not violate any specific rules of international law or UN Security Council resolutions

Russia should not talk about declaring a war or attack another country in a sudden.

Btw. did Russia declare the war before they attacked Ukraine?



The Iran declared Israel the war last year.

And regarding to that Russia should be very quiet 😉

Fun fact: The Iran-Israel crises is a blessing for Russia, now USA will be busy with Iran and Putin can conquer large parts of Ukraine.

No, Zelensky is a proven idiot, it's time he realizes he is the one behind this mess, if Ukraine had not announced any plans to join NATO or EU, none of this would have happened.

Zelensky, is an amazing guy. Zelensky, respects democracy. UKRAINIANS want to join NATO. This isn't coming from Zelensky.
He is their representative. His job is to seek to enact the stuff they ask for. Such as joining NATO. That is how democracy works.
Democracy, isn't just a tool you use when it is easy and convenient. It is a way of life that you must honor even when it doesn't go your way.
Because anything less is not democracy.

What has Iran to do with Russia? They are ALLIES. https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-putin-irans-raisi-oversee-railway-deal-signing-2023-05-17/ a rail deal too. And a history of many other deals. Iran, is a Russian proxy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_the_Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

Yes. Donald Trump is an orange and very low intelligence dip shit, There is a very high chance he starts world war the third Nuclear version. How will he do it? Your guess is as good as mine. He may set it in motion when Putin, is ready for it by ordering a bombing of Iran's nuclear development facilities giving Russia the opportunity to defend it's proxy without looking more like the A hole they already look like with what they have done to Ukraine. Or Russia, might start it by getting a bit slappy happy with their activities of late along the Finnish border. Last time they were there they shot their own men and created an excuse to invade blaming Finland. Maybe Iran starts it? By developing the bomb that they shouldn't have. Maybe India, blows up Pakistan.... Maybe Israel goes nutz.... It's a powder keg lately on the brink in all the trouble spots, and even areas that were not considered trouble spots. So which one will cause it? A wise old zen master used to say, "only don't know." He was my friend. I will go with that for now. But we are on the edge of a knife in relation to the third world war. That much is self evident. If I have to put money on who will start it, I gonna go with the orange creep who has the marines arresting Californians in violation of the constitution, while he sits in the white house scarfing cheese burgers from Mcdonalds then goes off to play golf between rounds of constipation while sitting atop his golden throne that really should be made of porcelain. But.... That is just my opinion.

I am an American citizen. Born here. Family been here since the Mayflower. Do their citizens like them? I can't speak to that for all of them. But I can say, that while I am fiercely dedicated to non violent activism, I DO hate Donald Trump. I keep hoping his golden toilet swallows him..... I know the majority of the USA, is not thrilled with what he is getting himself up to and his impact on our communities. But how much of a majority? Not much. He has a sickophantic cult following of people as mentally ill as he is. People who don't understand real life can not be a reality tv show. The world can't function that way.

I think it is hard to keep politics free of these folks... Democracy, is a wonderful thing. I would hate to give it up... That said, when these folks get crazy we all need to do better to non violently remove them from power before they do too much damage. But where does that line fall and who decides? California decided recently. Then the no king's march also took to the streets... So we the people should decide. And at least here gradually we are. The midterms will come. When they do, a leash will at the very least be put on the orange menace.

Good night dear Amanda for you on the Us East Coast and good morning for me in Germany where I m still ! How are you ? Well, I think Donald Duck is just an evil businessman who really does not care at all about public good and is only interested in one thing : his personal interest and how to take profit from any situation and chance so as to improve this one and it really seems to me his only goal in life ! Concerning his action in Iran, well it seems to me very easy to understand his policy : he would be very glad if Mollah s regim decided to strike back by launching waves of ballistic missiles and drons on US military bases in Saudi Arabia and Bahrein but also on oil production centers in thoses countries and at last if they decided to blockade the Ormuz Strait where 30% of the world s oil trafic is concentrated !

If such a situation should happen, the main victims would be EU, China , Japan , South Korea and indian economies , so all the enemies of the Us according to him and his fans and the great winners would be of course the Us and Russia which would massively increase their oil production so as to be able to replace gulf s countries one and imposing their prices conditions to the whole planet !

Zelensky, is an amazing guy. Zelensky, respects democracy. UKRAINIANS want to join NATO. This isn't coming from Zelensky.
He is their representative. His job is to seek to enact the stuff they ask for. Such as joining NATO. That is how democracy works.
Democracy, isn't just a tool you use when it is easy and convenient. It is a way of life that you must honor even when it doesn't go your way.
Because anything less is not democracy.

What has Iran to do with Russia? They are ALLIES. https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-putin-irans-raisi-oversee-railway-deal-signing-2023-05-17/ a rail deal too. And a history of many other deals. Iran, is a Russian proxy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_the_Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

No, Iran will never be a Russian proxy, while many Ukrainians want to join NATO, it's the leader's discretion to take an appropriate decision.

India and China have many deals with Russia, that does not mean we are their proxies...

I respect your opinion on democracy, and it is nearly correct, the Ukrainians need to realize that Russia has no interest in them until they pose a serious threat to Russia.

India buys a lot of black ware (oil) from Russia and finance the war, so be careful with being proud 😉

India buys a lot of black ware (oil) from Russia and finance the war, so be careful with being proud.

Same goes to you!

Germany snapping up refined oil products from India amid Russia sanctions: Data

Germany buys Russian oil from India: Reports | Al Mayadeen English

BTW, the crude oil for this comes from Russia...

Give it to us at the same/lesser price we will buy from any country...

Or invest in greener technologys to get rid off dependencies