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Eventhough he was one of the funniest figure ever in the history of philosophy, yet he was brilliantly genious one to make such a response when he was asked why do people give to beggars, but not to philosophers?: "Because they think they may one day be lame or blind, but never expect that they will turn to philosophy." Either he's considered as an ancient troll, or an ancient rock star, he was one of most colorful characters in ancient Greece. His greatest rival in never ending philosophical debates, Plato has described him “ A Socrates, gone mad.” Was he mad for real or just a theatrical philosopher radicalizing the ideas of his teacher Antisthenes? Let's check some anectodes from him.

While he was in Corinth, he was living as a penniless philosophizing beggar, and he was lazily busy with having his sunbath under the cruel Sun of Corinth. Out of a blue, he's approached by Alexander the Great and his guards. Surprisingly Alexander makes Diogenes an incredible offer: "ask anything of me and I'll give it to you." Diogenes grumbled and replied "Stand out of my light." It may sound like a foolishly bold answer in the first place, but in fact, it still holds the essence of his cynic philosopy. Cynics like Diogenes prized one thing above all else: "autarkeia" translated into "autonomy or freedom." For sure, he was wise enough to see Alexander's offer wasn't just a gift, but an attempt to buy his loyalty. We might think that such a disrespectful answer could have made Alexander pissed off. But he enjoyed this answer and Alexander is reported to have said, "Had I not been Alexander, I should have liked to be Diogenes."

Some day, Diogenes was captured by pirates and auctioned off as a slave in Corinth. When he was presented on the stage to potential buyers, he did something weird: He spotted a rich man in the crowd named Xeniades and said, "Sell me to this man; he needs a master." Even as a slave, Diogenes was freer than his supposed master. Indeed it was a radical conception of freedom for his age. You don't see that in Socrates, Plato or Aristotle.

"Plato saw [Diogenes] washing lettuces, came up to him and quietly said to him, 'Had you paid court to Dionysius, you wouldn't now be washing lettuces,' and that he with equal calmness made answer, 'If you had washed lettuces, you wouldn't have paid court to Dionysius.'" Plato was to mean If Diogenes sucked up to a powerful ruler, like Dionysius of Syracuse, then he'd have the means to live in a real house and not have to scrounge for food in the streets. Diogenes was sleeping in a a "pithos", a large ceramic jar for storing grain or wine. His witty and sharp answer gave Plato a lesson: "accept poverty and you'll be free from these bloody rulers."

Some day, Plato was given a question to solve. The question was how do you define a human in the simplest way possible? Plato was quoted by saying “featherless bipeds” was the simplest way. Theorically anything that was featherless and could walk on two legs was indeed a human. According to Diogenes, not. He took the feather off a chicken and went to Plato academy lecture and boldly said: “ Behold, Plato's man!” After this trolling session, Plato would have to change his answer. instead of “featherless bipeds”, he would have to include “fatherless bipeds with fingernails.”

In another episode, Diogenes was seen begging money from statues. When asked why, he replied, "To get practice in being refused."

Diogenes earn the nickname "the Dog", "kuōn" in Greek. Kunikos or "dog-like." became cynic. Athenians used to insult him by throwing this name on him. But he embraced this name happily. Few people thrown him some bones as they would have done to a dog. His response was unexpected one, he lifted one of his legs and drenched them with his urine.

In some other episode, Alexander the Great found the philosopher looking attentively at a pile of human bones, and asked what he was doing. Diogenes told Alexander: "“I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave.”

Diogenes spent his life living an ascetic lifestyle. One anecdote reveals that he destroyed his only possession – a wooden bowl – after seeing a peasant boy drinking water from a puddle out of his hands. Diogenes supposedly exclaimed: “Fool that I am, to have been carrying superfluous baggage all this time!” Cynics believed that the main goal of life was "eudaemonia" or mental clarity. This could only be achieved by living in accordance with nature and embracing ascetic practices.

Some day, he was caught by Athenians while he was masturbating publicly in a busy marketplace. When someone approaches him and asks what on earth he’s doing, he replies “I wish it was as easy to relieve hunger by rubbing an empty stomach.” According to the Cynics, living according to nature and not human-created customs (nomos) is the highest form of wisdom. Self-sufficiency (autarkeia) is a vital step towards rejecting society and acquiring true happiness.

No matter we take him as a weird guy with genious absurdity and twisted humour, in fact he was a distorted mirror towards Athenian daily life. Eventhough he didn't have a physical academy, entire city was his school to teach. What did he teach us? “He has the most who is the most content with the least.”

I shall finish with one his final trolling attempt. You remember Alexander simply told that “If I were not Alexander I would wish to be Diogenes” What could our witty philosopher have said on it?

“If I weren’t Diogenes, I’d too also wish to be Diogenes.” Indeed, there is only one of him.

This is like a very huge adventure book!! I never heard about Diogenes. I have to read more times to understand everything what you write but I think that he is maybe VERY brave or VERY arrogant when he says that like to kings and very important persons!! How can he do that and that he is calm??? 😮 I already die like if I give a presentation in school but what if Alexander killed him?? Nobody knows of him if that happened.

But from brave or arrogant i think he is maybe brave the most. I dont understand cynic but I will look that up later!!! Thank you very much for lecture!!! I can never write like that if I write a lecture maybe sometime. But it is very cool and nice to read!!! 🙂

Hi "Diogenes",

thank you for your contribution.
It is great that you start with the historical person
which is one part of your profile name.

I already knew some stories and I think you took
a good choice to illustrate his philosophy/way of life.

I know you well enough that I dare to claim that you would say:

"If I weren`t me, I would wish to be me."

I would like to express my gratitude to everyone for having their time to read. 🙂

Thank you very much for the lesson Professor Diogenes! 🙂 On Netflix is now series of Alexander the Great. I did not see it yet but i saw the trailer and it looks nice. And we are going to see Marco Polo series on Netflix because everybody says that is really nice to see. Do you know maybe also stories of Alexander the Great and Marco Polo? Or other nice stories like from Diogenes? Thank you for your answer! 🙂

Thank you very much for the lesson Professor Diogenes! 🙂 On Netflix is now series of Alexander the Great. I did not see it yet but i saw the trailer and it looks nice. And we are going to see Marco Polo series on Netflix because everybody says that is really nice to see. Do you know maybe also stories of Alexander the Great and Marco Polo? Or other nice stories like from Diogenes? Thank you for your answer! 🙂
I can freely say that Alexander The Great is worth watch. It's fairly accurated with historical facts. I like it. Marco Polo is a well made production as well, but naturally it has some fictional elements top over historical facts. It is interesting and worth watch.

Hi,
I did some more research on Diogenes.
What do you think...how reliable are the stories about Diogenes?
And what about his philosophy? Is it possible that others put their
own theory in it?
Does it really matter to you if it is all true?
Is it in the end more literature than history...
... or a tool which everybody can use to reflect their own search for truth?

Hi,
I did some more research on Diogenes.
What do you think...how reliable are the stories about Diogenes?
And what about his philosophy? Is it possible that others put their
own theory in it?
Does it really matter to you if it is all true?
Is it in the end more literature than history...
... or a tool which everybody can use to reflect their own search for truth?
First of all, I must say that most of anectodes are reliable. Latter literature and history are not the same thing in methodology. History requires comperative accuracy in the end. Our main resource on the life of Diogenes, is Diogenes Laertius, in the book "The Lives of Eminent Philosophers." Serious work for ancient standarts. Like a true historian, he cited some other authors such as Theophrastus and Polyeuctus. These names are important since they are his contemporaries. the anecdotes related to Alexander is told by several of the Alexander-biographers, as well as Cicero, the philosopher Dio. Other Roman-period authors mentioning him are Epictetus and Aulus Gellius. I can count some other less significant names as well.

It is kind of believing in bibles. None of the authors have seen Jeshua of Nazareth but they have derived the teachings and stories passed through apostles. Today milliards of people believe in these compilations as the truth of salvation. No body is much interested is he a true historical figure or not. Same with the Diogenes. He had kind of his puppils, these puppils had their contemprorary chronics and so on. Truth has a long journey throughout the history until reaching us. Luckily we can differ and notice those milestones the truth passed by. 🙂

Okay, thank you for your profound answer!!