Titanik

I absolutely support - equality and equity between people, and I also hate feminists who supposedly fight for women's rights.

April 15th is coming soon, the anniversary of the Titanic disaster, I'm reading about it now.
The brutality of some crew members and especially the captain is shocking.
The degenerate who, as a result of his mistakes, brought his ship to the brink of disaster, already in the process of the disaster gave his last idiotic order - to let only women and children to the lifeboats, and not all children, but girls, because for example, boys aged 16 and 13 cannot be called men, but they were not allowed. Their mother was allowed onto the lifeboat, but her sons were not - and she preferred to stay with them (she survived, but both her sons died)
as a result, all the boats that were - departed from the Titanic completely unloaded, so in one boat instead of the required 65 people there were only 12.
The crew, whose duty it was to save passengers - did not distinguish themselves in this either.
The sailors understood how the collision with the iceberg would end, so they tried to occupy the lifeboat even before the general panic, arguing that they had to row. At the same time, they understood that if there was a male passenger in the lifeboat, there would be no need for a sailor himself.
some justify them - talking about the incredible difficulty of rowing in a lifeboat, which is complete nonsense. I did it when I was 10, because my grandfather served in a naval school and during the summer holidays he would take me with him and give me over to the care of the cadets for the whole day, and I spent all my classes with them, including rowing in the lifeboats

There were two feminists on the Titanic - internationally known fighters for equal rights with men, multimillionaire Margaret Brown and journalist Helen Churchill Candy.

Do you think they shared equal rights with men in rescuing passengers during the disaster?

No. They were among the first to leave the sinking ship in lifeboat No. 6. The lifeboat was designed for 65 people, but if you squeezed together, you could fit more. Those who survived the Titanic spent only an hour and a half on the water before the arrival of the ship Carpathia, which took them on board.

So, in lifeboat No. 6, instead of the minimum 65 people, there were 26 – 24 women and 2 men.

some men who managed to escape by chance received their share of contempt - because they dared to escape without being women.
for example Masabumi Hosono
During the departure of one of the last lifeboats, hearing the officer's cry "two empty seats!", Hosono did not lose his head. He saw a man jump into the lifeboat and followed his example. Hosono worked in the Japanese Ministry of Transport and was sent on a mission to Russia. On the way back, he ended up on board the Titanic. In America, he received a bad reputation. Upon returning to Japan, he was proclaimed a coward and lost his job. He is even illustrated in Japanese textbooks, characterized as an immoral person.

I just want to ask the bastards who poisoned him - what is he actually guilty of. What did he do wrong. Would you poison him, you bastards, if he was born with a vagina?

the bastard officers, together with the degenerate captain, were unable to organize a normal rescue, although the ship was sinking extremely slowly - almost three hours and there was a dead calm - and they are blaming random people.

What am I getting at? I am absolutely against the slightest discrimination, of any people.
Especially in such extreme situations, which bring more confusion and chaos than help rescue, if they had lined up in neat ranks, and the crew had stopped the panic, many more people would have been saved.

I hate - when someone talks about what a person should do based on their gender, and condemns when someone does not meet their ideas about the duties of an imposed gender role.

I hate when feminists talk about how women are oppressed, and men have some privileges - I just want to ask - what privileges do men actually have compared to women?

I can compare. Since I lived on both sides - women simply do not realize how lucky they are - that they were born women.
I hate all sorts of scum who consider themselves alpha males - and who arrange wars between nations, and send people to die - they themselves stay away from any danger.

They say after the Titanic - they took safety rules seriously - I read them, the same idiotic approach - According to maritime rules, first of all, children, women, the wounded and the elderly are put in lifeboats. That is, even the wounded are not worthy of getting into the lifeboats before women, so it turns out? It was clearly written by some alpha males who, out of idiotic alphaness, want to arrange a second Titanic on the ship. Life teaches these degenerates nothing.

I agree with what you say. Sexism works both ways, and nowadays males and females basically have the same rights, so the 'feminists' that are left aren't against sexism but simply against men, and that is ridiculous.

Also, I don't understand why the wounded and elderly go in the lifeboats before the more healthy and strong people. I understand that it's not nice when people die, but shouldn't society prioritize good workers over half dead people that might or might not already be useless? As for women and children first, I think it's more about chivalry and safety. If anyone could go in the lifeboats without any priority, it would simply end up with people pushing each other to have a place and become even more dangerous for everyone.

But obviously that rule shouldn't be absolute, or the only criteria. For example, if there is a boat with only women on board that sinks, who goes in the lifeboats first? I think it should depend on the rank of the person instead of the gender, or something like that (as long as it's not first come first served because that would be arguably worse than a sinking boat). If people want males and females to be equal so badly, there shouldn't be such discrimination against gender when a disaster happens.

P-S: I've used a boat analogy all this time because that's what the forum is about, but it works in many other situations too.

If anyone could go in the lifeboats without any priority, it would simply end up with people pushing each other to have a place and become even more dangerous for everyone.

so it is the duty of the crew to ensure that there is no panic and disorder, that no one breaks the line

a little more from this story:

The stories about the behavior of men during the disaster sensitively affected the militant suffragettes. For May 4, 1912, they scheduled a large demonstration in New York in support of their demands and prepared for it long and carefully.

But many well-known and influential members of the movement after the tragedy that happened with the Titanic refused to participate in this event, and thousands of rank-and-file union members followed their example. When on the appointed day the procession, led by women on horseback, moved along Fifth Avenue, it turned out that only about eight thousand people had gathered. The generous patron of higher education, Annie Nathan Meyer, one of those who refused to participate in the demonstration, expressed the feelings of many women when she declared that "after such a fine example of self-sacrifice and heroism displayed by the men on the Titanic, such a demonstration was unfortunate in its timing and altogether inappropriate."

The American women, who looked askance at the suffragettes' actions, organized their own action. They announced a collection of funds for a monument, which, as they said in their appeal, would serve as an eternal reminder of the chivalry of men. Only women could participate in the action, and each could contribute only one dollar, in order to give as many American women as possible the opportunity to express their feelings, and on April 28, 1912, the first contribution was made by the President's wife, Nellie Taft. Soon more than $25,000 was collected, and sculptor Gertrude Whitney took up the work on the monument.

This monument can still be seen today in one of Washington's parks. It is a six-meter figure of a half-naked man with his arms spread out like a cross. The sculpture is mounted on a ten-meter pedestal. The inscription carved on it pays tribute to the admiration of "the brave men of the Titanic who sacrificed themselves to save women and children." It is also noted that the monument was erected at the expense of American women. American and British feminists could not recover from such a blow for a long time."

It's interesting to see that they focus on sexism but blind for the horrible class discrimination in the case. 61% – the percentage of First Class passengers who survived. 42% – the percentage of Standard Class passengers who survived . 24% – the percentage of Third Class passengers who survived. 20% – the percentage of male passengers who survived. 75% – the percentage of female passengers who survived. Numbers tell that not the gender but your social status determines your fate.