Okay! I have a question: why some people care so much if other people are gay, or bi or anything not-straight? What it take away from you, if, like, two women love each other? And bonusquestion: why care, if someone is born in the wrong body and transitions?
I am looking for respectful, well-reasoned answers, not things like 'because God says it's wrong' etc...
Thank you :3
Mulha on luultavast täysin eri mielipide täst aiheest ku sul joten voisin vähä avata sitä et mikä siin o.
Ekana se ei oo luonnollista. Tieteellisest näkökulmast siin ei oo mitään järkee ja mä lupaan et jos tähän vastataan "mutku on muitakin lajeja jois on homosuhteit" niin mä heitän tän puhelimen menemään. Sillä joo totta se o. Mut ainoo eliö ihmisen lisäksi jos esiintyy yksilöit joil on vaa homosuhteit o lammas. Kyllä lammas. Ja jos katotaa kaik nää muukkin homoudet kute kahest sukupuolest pitämine nii vertaaksä tosiaan itteäs eläimeen. Ihmisel ja kaikil olioilla o lisääntymisvietti joka toimii just niinku nimi sanoo.
Toiseks ei mua rehellisesti sanoen kiinnosta et ketä pitää kenestä mut aina ku kysees on homo ihmine sil on yht äkkiä joku tarve kertoo mulle et kummast sukupuolest pitää. Niinku se mua kiinnostais. Ja sit se olettaa et mä oon aivan täysin tukemassa sitä. Et mua ei kiinnosta ennen kun sä teet asiasta sellasen et mua o pakko kiinnostaa. Aina näkee jotain sateenkaari lippuja kaikkial joit pitäs kunnioittaa tai jotain. Miksei kaik vois vaan elää omaa elämäänsä ilman et se tuoraan muitten tietoisuuteen.
Kolmas juttu. Se on vaan menny liian pitkälle. Nykyää kaik on yht äkkiä joku sellane koska sitä mainostetaan sellasena et kaik on sellasia ja pahinta sitä mainostetaan lapsil (koko homma pitäs kyl pitää kaukaan lapsist sillä just nuorilla se o huomattavasti yleisintä koska some ja halu erottua joukost) tai sit ne kaik paraatit, liput ja oletus siitä et heidän tukemisensa on yhtä suuri kun ihmisoikeuksiin uskominen ja jos et usko niin olet inhottava kusipää joka ei ansaitse elää (tositarina). Siit koko hommast on paisunu vähän niinku muoti ilmiö. Kyllä homoi on ollu aina mut koskaan ennen siit ei ol tehty näin suurta huomioo. Ja sit ne kaikki homoustyypit vedetään kans äärimmäisyyksiin ne perus kolme on ymmärrerrävissä mut sit ku se menee siit kauemmas niin se on taas sitte toinen juttu.
Ja tohon vikaan kysymykseen jos sä oikeesti uskot et oot vaik tyttö pojan kehos nii siit vaan kunhan teet sen kunnolla etkä jätä puolitiehen eli otat kaik leikkaukset ja muut hoidot. Mut sen kyseisen ihmisen täytyy kyl myöski hyväksyy et ei se kyl koskaan tuu saavuttaa sitä täydellisesti toiseksi sukupuoleksi muuttumista. Mut tästi tilanteessa miks niit sukupuolii tarttee keksii niin monta. On kaikkee et kuvittelee olevans eläin ja jotain muuta sellast ja se menee aivan liian pitkälle mun mielestä.
Mut jos ollaan rehellisiä harvaa asia oikeesti kiinnostaa niin paljo ku homot yrittää väittää et niitä kiinnostaa.
You both can talk in suomi by the way 😉
Okay! I have a question: why some people care so much if other people are gay, or bi or anything not-straight? What it take away from you, if, like, two women love each other? And bonusquestion: why care, if someone is born in the wrong body and transitions?
I am looking for respectful, well-reasoned answers, not things like 'because God says it's wrong' etc...
Thank you :3
I think u should be how u want and nobody has anybody to do with that so if they say smt than just ignore it if u can EVEN if that is sometimes really difficult. Often ppl also say things to me but bc of race and then they make jokes or comments so people will always have like 872198371 opinions abt everybody. But i think if u want to be in a way then it is YOUR choice and if that makes u happy it is always good and i will respect it and i hope everybody else too. 🙏✨🙏
Nobody cares about that, or at least much less than gay and mainstream woke movement thinks. Maybe you can mutilate your genitals, but you can't change your chromosomes. It's especially problematic when children are allowed to do that without parental consent. Here are well-reasoned answers why being gay isn't natural: in the nature + is always atrracted to - (electrical energy, magnets). There is no way that north pole can ever be attracted to another north pole or that electron would move toward another electron.
You both can talk in suomi by the way 😉
I can translate it dont worry
Mulha on luultavast täysin eri mielipide täst aiheest ku sul joten voisin vähä avata sitä et mikä siin o.
Ekana se ei oo luonnollista. Tieteellisest näkökulmast siin ei oo mitään järkee ja mä lupaan et jos tähän vastataan "mutku on muitakin lajeja jois on homosuhteit" niin mä heitän tän puhelimen menemään. Sillä joo totta se o. Mut ainoo eliö ihmisen lisäksi jos esiintyy yksilöit joil on vaa homosuhteit o lammas. Kyllä lammas. Ja jos katotaa kaik nää muukkin homoudet kute kahest sukupuolest pitämine nii vertaaksä tosiaan itteäs eläimeen. Ihmisel ja kaikil olioilla o lisääntymisvietti joka toimii just niinku nimi sanoo.
Toiseks ei mua rehellisesti sanoen kiinnosta et ketä pitää kenestä mut aina ku kysees on homo ihmine sil on yht äkkiä joku tarve kertoo mulle et kummast sukupuolest pitää. Niinku se mua kiinnostais. Ja sit se olettaa et mä oon aivan täysin tukemassa sitä. Et mua ei kiinnosta ennen kun sä teet asiasta sellasen et mua o pakko kiinnostaa. Aina näkee jotain sateenkaari lippuja kaikkial joit pitäs kunnioittaa tai jotain. Miksei kaik vois vaan elää omaa elämäänsä ilman et se tuoraan muitten tietoisuuteen.
Kolmas juttu. Se on vaan menny liian pitkälle. Nykyää kaik on yht äkkiä joku sellane koska sitä mainostetaan sellasena et kaik on sellasia ja pahinta sitä mainostetaan lapsil (koko homma pitäs kyl pitää kaukaan lapsist sillä just nuorilla se o huomattavasti yleisintä koska some ja halu erottua joukost) tai sit ne kaik paraatit, liput ja oletus siitä et heidän tukemisensa on yhtä suuri kun ihmisoikeuksiin uskominen ja jos et usko niin olet inhottava kusipää joka ei ansaitse elää (tositarina). Siit koko hommast on paisunu vähän niinku muoti ilmiö. Kyllä homoi on ollu aina mut koskaan ennen siit ei ol tehty näin suurta huomioo. Ja sit ne kaikki homoustyypit vedetään kans äärimmäisyyksiin ne perus kolme on ymmärrerrävissä mut sit ku se menee siit kauemmas niin se on taas sitte toinen juttu.
Ja tohon vikaan kysymykseen jos sä oikeesti uskot et oot vaik tyttö pojan kehos nii siit vaan kunhan teet sen kunnolla etkä jätä puolitiehen eli otat kaik leikkaukset ja muut hoidot. Mut sen kyseisen ihmisen täytyy kyl myöski hyväksyy et ei se kyl koskaan tuu saavuttaa sitä täydellisesti toiseksi sukupuoleksi muuttumista. Mut tästi tilanteessa miks niit sukupuolii tarttee keksii niin monta. On kaikkee et kuvittelee olevans eläin ja jotain muuta sellast ja se menee aivan liian pitkälle mun mielestä.
Mut jos ollaan rehellisiä harvaa asia oikeesti kiinnostaa niin paljo ku homot yrittää väittää et niitä kiinnostaa.
i probably have a completly diferent opinion about this topic than you. So i can open it up bit to whats behind it
Firstly its not natural from a scientific point of view. It dosent make any sense and i promise you if someone answers to this but there are other species that have gay relationships im gonna throw this phone away. Because yeah its true but the only species besides humans where individuals occur that only have relationship with same gender is sheep. Yes sheep. And if you look at all these other gays like liking both genders. Do you really compare yourself to an animal. Humans and all species have a reproduction instinct that works just like the name says.
Secondly i honestly dont care who likes who but every time its a gay person they suddenly have some need to tell me which gender they like. Like i would care. And then assume that i am compleatly supporting it. Like i dont care until you make it a thing that i am forced to care about. You always see some rainbow flags everywhere that you should respect or something. Why couldnt everyone just live their own life without bringing it into other peoples knowledge.
Third thing. It has just gone too far. Nowadays everyone is suddenly some gay because it is advertised as something everyone is and worst it is advertised to kids (whole thing should yes keep far from kids because just with young people it is significantly most common because social media and want to stand out from crowd) or then those all parades, flags and assumption that supporting them is equal as believing in human rights and if you don't believe then you are disgusting asshole who does not deserve to live (true story). From that whole thing it has became like a fashion popukarity stuff. Yes gays has been always but never before its been made this big thing. And then those all gay types are pulled also to extremities those basic three are somewhat understandable but then when it goes further from there then it is again another thing.
And to that last question if you really believe that you are for example girl in boys body so be it just as long as you do it properly and don't leave halfway meaning you take all surgeries and other treatments. But that specific person must also accept that it will never come achieve that perfec switch to second gender. But even in this situation why those need to be pulled to extrwmities. There are people that imagine being animal and something other like that and it goes completely too far in my opinion.
But if we are honest things like this actually hardly never interest people as much as gay people make it out to be.
Torakka: Animals have gay "relationships" like people could already watched at pinguins or birds. Its not common for wild living animals like bears, lions or generally meat eating animals, mostly for species who live in more peaceful socities. Flamingos e.g. can have that, too.
I guess regarding animals its a different thing, because animals often life after rule "only strongest and healthies will reproduce." So the amount of gay animals might be a certain number, but nobody cares, because only e.g. the strongest 40% will reproduce in a group.
Regarding to humen I think its because modern socities "allow" this to be visible, in some countries its illegal.
But in former centuries, people were too much full of work from morning to evening, so I think it was always the case, that humen were gay, but visible its nowadays.
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In nature homosexual relarionships are caused by 5 different reasons typicly.
1. Just for fun.
2. Practise for future mate.
3. To avoind conflict and hierachy.
4. To ensure survival of the pack or kids.
5. To glue the pack more together.
Its all animalistic reasons made to ensure survival. Humans are a compleatly different thing and i am tired of people using this animals are gay too argument. You know there are over 1500 species that cannibalise theyr own. Should that mean humans should do that as well. No. We are supposed to be the sivilicided species that rule the world.
Should it be visible? Who wants to know who you sleep with. As for the illegality thing your from germany. Im from finland and so is the person who started this conversation i think we arent from the places that gay people need the most help in.
People should still work from morning to evening. But are you saying jobless people are more likely to be gay cause they have more time (im tired man dont blame me) Being gay has become far too encouraged in todays society.
Sorry, that is bullshit.
Sorry, that is bullshit.
Is that comment really nessesary. Provide a proper counter argument instead of resulting to use such bad langauge
Torakka: Well, I think the reason you mentioned is still too one-sided. In fact, I believe it essentially stems from the fact that human love and sexuality differ from those of animals, which are fundamentally based on the instinct for reproduction. For humans, love is a phenomenon rooted in the desire to be understood and accepted, the hope for a deep, soulful connection and intimacy with another person, and a foundation of care and self-sacrifice (though I’m not entirely sure what the essence of love is). It’s very complex, and for modern people, love is rarely motivated solely by reproduction; therefore, the object of one’s love no longer has to be of the opposite sex. So this isn’t an unnatural phenomenon—in fact, when viewed in terms of the differences between humans and animals, it’s actually natural. This is also why, although homosexuality appears to contribute nothing to human evolution, the genes associated with it have not been eliminated through human evolution.
For me i just hope that @Taavi also just feels that ppl respect her and that if she makes choices then those are HER choices and it is fine and i think that nobody should judge it. I agree also what Kerttu @Torakka said when she wrote abt if people show affection super exaggerately then i also dont really feel comfortable but that is no matter if they are hetero or different. For example in our school one couple is super exagerate and they dont care if u see that and that can make u feel super cringe and uncomfortable so i think they should be more privately and that is also more respectful for everybody. Of course they can show that they are a couple but they really are everywhere in certain way and everybody sees that often. But abt choices that u make for urself it is only that u must think what makes YOU happy and nobody should judge it and i hope @Taavi feels that way and everybody respects that. 🙏🙏